Female genital mutilation

key facts

• Female genital mutilation (FGM) includes procedures that intentionally alter or injure female genital organs for non-medical reasons.
• An estimated 100 to 140 million girls and women worldwide are currently living with the consequences of FGM.
• In Africa, about three million girls are at risk for FGM annually.
• The procedure has no health benefits for girls and women.
• Procedures can cause severe bleeding and problems urinating, and later, potential childbirth complications and newborn deaths.
• It is mostly carried out on young girls sometime between infancy and age 15 years.
• FGM is internationally recognized as a violation of the human rights of girls and women.

so how is it similar to circumcision? It´s like saying there´s no difference between cutting your toenails and cutting your toes

If it´s such a no big deal, would you do it to your mom?

so if there´s a long tradition of cannibalism in a culture, does it mean the world should applaud it and not want it to change? Cool

Yersu, I think you just made it to the post of the week thread!

How about female circumcision then? It leaves a woman permanently disabled so this could be a better example. Anyway; these are not completely different issues as you claim. The least harmful is sünnet, as you increse the scale you have female circumsicion, as you increase it even further you have blood feuds and honor killings. All are harmful acts dictated by ones culture and I don´t see much difference between them except the scale.

(Oops someone seems to have posted about female circumsicion before me, damn I can´t write in English fast enough :S)

 damn Polish vice,isn´t it?good night!))Ms spiteful)))

How did human society grow out of cannibalism? Was there an intervention? (of aliens lets say). Turkish government has been trying to prevent all these töre related issues, but it just doesn´t work. Every attemp is regarded as an assault on their culture, because they define themselves with töre.

Here is the issue: an average Kurd without töre isn´t much different than an average Turk. You can tell these two apart physically but it isn´t as evident as whites and blacks. They practice the same religion, have similar cuisines etc. More than half of Kurds can not speak any Kurdish dialect and %90+ can understand Turkish. Töre and feudal lifestyle is one of those few things(or maybe the only thing) that sets them apart. That´s one of the reasons why complete abolishment of töre = assimilation for them. And this is true to some degree.

Yes, we all know the Turkish government is extremely delicate and culture-sensitive, especially towards the Kurdish, or, shall I say, the mountain Turks´ culture.

You´d think a government which does not hesitate to invade other country´s territory in order to do their business should be a bit more successful in fighting crime and providing education. Meanwhile, it´s like leaving those poor girls on their own.

I agree! Which again shows taht some people are only upset when it´s "racism against Turkish people" or "racism of non-Muslims against Muslims", but not when it´s racism OF Turkish people, or Muslims agasint non-Muslims, or Muslims against other Muslims, even when those events are much worse. I am very skeptical when I see people criticizing others who are unable to bear criticism themselves, because they will turn around and do the same thing when THEY are in the position of power. It´s kind of like what´s happening now in Israel...

How about honor killings amongst immigrants in Europe? Shouldn´t European countries succeed where Turkey seems to have failed, fighting crime and education? Last time I checked they are even more common there.

That´s just ridiculous and racist. You are saying that Kurds are primitive, backwards people unable of making intelligent decisions. Yes, it may be their culture, but I am sure that there are progressive people amongst them who wish things could change, if only there were fair laws applied in fair ways. But of course that Kurds won´t trust Turks who at the same time put them to prison for celebrating their holidays.

Haha, tell this to those who starts the sentence "firstly im not christian but" & "it is horrible however" etc, ok lemon the nightmare of zurna players?