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4350.       armegon
1872 posts
 20 Jan 2010 Wed 12:13 am

 

Quoting Trudy

 

 

And you don´t wonder about her committing suicide as the second member of the same family? Her sister (supposedly) committed suicide in 1997 (or 1996, can´t remember). Weird, that deaths are administrated as suicides. Looks like a huge covering up to me.

 

Everything possible, i just put what i read...

4351.       Yersu
241 posts
 20 Jan 2010 Wed 12:15 am

 

Quoting armegon

 

 

 Saying the truth is not racism i think. Yersu, it seems you are the new racist member Wink 

 

I prefer to be called Realist I can´t bother trying to express my thoughts in a politically correct manner, my English ins´t that good for that yet anyway.



Edited (1/20/2010) by Yersu

4352.       ptaszek
440 posts
 20 Jan 2010 Wed 12:15 am

 

Quoting armegon

 

 

 Saying the truth is not racism i think. Yersu, it seems you are the new  old racist member Wink 

 

 strange feeling i have.....

4353.       armegon
1872 posts
 20 Jan 2010 Wed 12:18 am

 

Quoting Yersu

 

 

I prefer to be called Realist I can´t bother trying to express my thoughts in a politically correct manner, my English ins´t that good for that yet anyway.

 

 I have to say your english is excellent, much better than mine

4354.       ptaszek
440 posts
 20 Jan 2010 Wed 12:27 am

 

Quoting armegon

 

 

 I have to say your english is excellent, much better than mine

 

 If I did not know you armegon I would buy you{#emotions_dlg.lol_fast}here you are taking the mickey{#emotions_dlg.whistle}

4355.       oeince
582 posts
 20 Jan 2010 Wed 12:37 am

I also read that news. Very sad...What is more sad is that stupidity is called as Töre and it is usual...That event is a sample..Unfortunately there are a lot of girls like that especially in the eastern Turkey...They are a step away from getting crazy becouse of family domination.

 

That events happen in closed societies. We lose our tiny girls...Turkish goverment has to produce a social policyto transform that kind of society. I hope that atrocity would become the last but i am sure it is not as long as goverment dont emphasize that event seriosly...

4356.       Yersu
241 posts
 20 Jan 2010 Wed 12:41 am

 

Quoting ptaszek

 

 

 strange feeling i have.....

 

I assure you I am not an old member if that is what you are trying to imply. I found this site through another forum, where a quite angry British woman had posted an irrelevant and bitter topic about how Turks should be exterminated from the surface of the earth. It turns out she was scammed by a love rat, and along my searches about the topic I stumbled upon this site. I read some stuff on the forums (all that Dudu terminology and stuff), felt like as if Turks were somewhat underhanded here and decided to become a member. I hope to improve my English as well, as a side effect.

4357.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 20 Jan 2010 Wed 12:55 am

 

Quoting Yersu

 

 

 Turks were somewhat underhanded here

 

Oi! That´s not true! Fine, we do criticise some things but 99% of us got here because we enjoyed our holidays there or decided to learn the language. I am the first to recommend visiting Turkey to everyone I know!

 

It´s just that some of the people have been here since 2004 if I remember correctly, over this time we´ve covered all topics about the beauty of Turkish landscapes and cuisine. Now we´re simply commenting on the news that somebody quotes. I wish there was more nicer news, though...

4358.       ptaszek
440 posts
 20 Jan 2010 Wed 01:10 am

 

Quoting Yersu

 

 

I assure you I am not an old member if that is what you are trying to imply. I found this site through another forum, where a quite angry British woman had posted an irrelevant and bitter topic about how Turks should be exterminated from the surface of the earth. It turns out she was scammed by a love rat, and along my searches about the topic I stumbled upon this site. I read some stuff on the forums (all that Dudu terminology and stuff), felt like as if Turks were somewhat underhanded here and decided to become a member. I hope to improve my English as well, as a side effect.

 

 just teasing)))and I am not trying to imply anything,I am just having fun with TLC as always

and i support dd post above

we discussed almost all here...ahhh..wish you luck with side effect!Hope you don´t need to be vaccinated???))))

 

4359.       Yersu
241 posts
 20 Jan 2010 Wed 01:42 am

 

Quoting ptaszek

 

 

 just teasing)))and I am not trying to imply anything,I am just having fun with TLC as always

and i support dd post above

we discussed almost all here...ahhh..wish you luck with side effect!Hope you don´t need to be vaccinated???))))

 

 

Well I guess the phrase "English as a side effect" is a testimony that I should really improve my English Maybe side-quest would be more appropriate.

4360.       catwoman
8933 posts
 20 Jan 2010 Wed 03:28 am

 

Quoting Yersu

 

You are right catwoman; there has been so many things going on between Turks & Kurds that it isn´t possible for us to intervene in their lifestyle anymore. We are alienated and that was what I was trying to say from the start. 

 

An example: I have relatives who work as teacher and nurse there, and did you know that infantile paralysis is still a serious problem among the Kurds? Because many rural Kurds reject vaccines as there are rumours that Turks are trying to sterilize them. Go figure, the trust between the peoples are THAT terrible. You know, like that story of the old man and the snake. And I don´t see it getting better soon, the only Kurds that have no issues are the so called Turkified Kurds. Like American of Irish descent etc.

 

Anyway; This is not an issue of who is right or wrong anymore. Turks or Turkish government can no longer intervene such issues, they will defend it more and more. My point right from the start, let them live their culture freely. Let them run amuck killing whoever they want. Sooner or later they will see that this is ridiculous and grow out of it, by themselves.

 

 

You´re right, a lot of horrible things have happened to Kurds from teh hands of Turks, but you will not see any Turk acknowledge that.. or at least not many. The process of improving will have to be long and is going to be harder because of what happened in the past, but you cannot get anywhere if you first do not acknowledge your mistakes and look for a way to make up for them. You still see Turks desiring a military solution for the conflict, they just refuse to see the root of the problem (but they notice racism anywhere when it´s them that´s in trouble - not to say taht it´s bad, but it´s certainly hypocritical). The situation is the same as it was in Ireland, until it dawned on Britain to address the roots of the grievances, and suddenly terrorism stopped!

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