Belated Birthday Wishes Sui

Ý wasnt around, but i managed to get this suitable on Ýftar table

Anddddd, you are entitled to share it with us if you wish

Cool, then we have a point here

You accept my right in believing in whatever i like and i dont ask you to believe in same

And i didnt !

We were attacked and judged by our belifs and thats what was happening in that thread.

And i dont accept that

How people react to things is different due to differences in thoughts, personalities, and serroundings too

We have great respect to our beliefs and we dont accept them being humiliated in a way or another.

We are not at the UN here, we are at TLC

We have some sort of relationships between us as members sharing thoughts and debates together, and to mantain this here we must respect our differences to have that relation.

Ýf i was debating at the UN, i wouldnt care actually, because i wouldnt care about the members there more or less same as they dont care about us .

And as for real life, dont worry, i didnt kill nor hit any Danes or something...i just boycott them

Ým fasting so i will pass that cup of tea, and i will enjoy Ramadan thank you.

Thanks DD and Teas for your nice feelings, i really appreciate it, and it does mean much.

Ý agree totally with you Teas

´´I have my beliefs and you have your´s´´

And as for Melek, its not norm nor acceptable that we who do believe in religion not just Ýslam find it that we are accused and need to defend our choices by believing in something where you take that right for granted that you dont believe in religion and we should accept your choices about that !

Ým not questioning your choice, and you dont have the right to question mine also, and thats not open for debate !

Ýts simply MY personal choice, and MY right too !

There was no debate or discussion about Ramadan or fasting, it was about people who expressed their feelings about it

And that is personal, and as being at one place here at TLC, and having let´s say some kind of good relation with each other, we start to talk about it, answer when we asked questions about it.

That doesnt mean we be a material for criticism for what we choose to be.

That doesnt mean when i say...it makes me FEEL what the poor feel, and makes me want to make them dont need anything...some said NO its not true...its only in your head !

When i say i be happy at Ýftar...and i enjoy being fasting..some said a drug could do that !

And last but not least that adding that i need to go to a group therapy because of what i believe !

Who gave ANYONE the right to say this to me or to anyone at all because of our different beliefs ?!

And you say sensetive ?!

Sorry but we call it SELF RESPECT !

No one has even a bit of self respect would accept that.

Who said i accept  the idea that you  dont believe in God or religion, who said i find it logic? who said that i find you more open or intelligent for that ?!

Have i said that ?

Or have i said otherwise ?!

Have i questioned your choice ?!

Ý can question the concept yes, but have i questioned your choice?!

Have i put you down for that?

Has anyone else ever did ?!

You think that makes me agree with what you believe ?!!!

NO,

Ý just respected your choice of believing or not believing in whatever you want

But you dont !

You think you are superior because you are smart enough more than us because you knew you have been fooled and religions were set by man.

Well, we who believe in religion think the other way around, but you didnt hear us questioning your choice...its simply yours !

We had many debates about religions, Ýslam to be specific...i personally joint many of them and i had no problem having other point of view not agreeing with me or what i believe.

Ý had many questioned addressed to me about many topics related to Ýslam, and gladly answered, joint, and we were not agreeing with each others too

But we were respecting our differences

You can check that, and see how many debates we had here at TLC informative and nice one without having any throwing stones at any direction.

Of course we also had others too

But the informative and good debates and the ones that we really enjoyed when we were respecting each other differences.

Ýts normal, we are different...so we will have different understandings and beliefs

To have different point of view and to express them in appropriate way is everyone´s right, even healthy too, it would make us understand more about each other.

But to question my choices, judge me for that, and start attacking me, my beliefs and feeling you are superior because of the choices you made, then expect me to be cool, open minded, join and answer any questions  and you call this debate ?! ..NO..im sorry, i dont accept.

As you grant yourself the right to choose and expect others to accept that because its YOUR choice, grant others same right.

Do you want to attack the others, even insult them and want them to accept it or else you would call them sensetive ?!!!

What? should we joke about it too to be pictured as open minded or what so ever  ?

Should i tell handsom ´´ ohhh yessss, you got it, i take the drugs just after Sahur and i join the group therapy after Ýftar to have those feelings during my fast´´ ?!

Would that makes me open minded and fine by your standards ?!!!

Not sensetive?!

No sorry, the would make me least i can say not a respectable person and doesnt deserve to be respected from those who have same beliefs and those who dont .

And if im honest enough with myself, i wouldnt respect me either !

And i DO respect myself, and respect my belifs enough to not accept that !

Ps: 1. ´´you´´  a general term .

2. Ý didnt mean to criticise/put down the choices of those who dont believe in religions, but it was an explaining that we also as religious people have our  criticism about it.

 Noo, noo, noo, you got that wrong, muslims were killed in Nigeria by christians where the majority there are muslims but the Christian countries are supporting the ruling Christians there where they are almost %20 of the population, and you can check that out !

And you also Forgot China, didnt you, there were Muslims there not others

How about Ýraq and Afghanistan...?!

We dont draw offensive cartoons or make offensive movies about other´s religions

We dont talk without respect about others prophets...etc

Anyway, iLoVetHaTx3 asked respect from TLC members not from the whole world, so did Queent and so do i.

That respect wont neither  decrease nor increase my belief.

Actually it wont effect my own belief nor Ýslam over all

The point is, it will make us able to share one place and communicate.

Mutual respect its called.

Respecting what the other belif is respecting his/her choice, it donest mean you believe or accept what they believe !

So ÝT ÝS  exclusively at TLC not about the whole world

Ýn fact i dont give a d**n about the whole world and what do they think or feel about us Muslims, i have my beliefe and thats enough for me

They think we are wrong, we also think they are wrong, if they dont like us...so what, we also wont like them

Ý dont really care !

Ýts about TLC and members here, because we share same place, and to be even able to communicate and talk with each others, where you refused what s/he asked and said..´´when i feel like it ´´ !

 Well, we wont go far, search TLC and tell me about it, who is respecting others religion more than who ?!

And Please, dont start talking about physical violence

Remember, our souls are dear to us same as yours to you...so they are counted too !

Yes as you said it yourself many times but you always coming back not resisting a chance to attack Ýslam or Muslims

And she is getting bitter ?!

All of you are getteing over her, attacking her for just being Muslim and practicing her religion and stating that she is loving, convencing about it !

A Christian, agnostic, and you

And all of you lecture us many, many time about so many things i didnt see you practice here...

Well, at least not with us muslims.

 Yes its weak and faulty full of errors religion that about 1,525,532,460 - 1,559,728,143  person believe in, but sure you know better !

We have something called ´´respecting the religion´ its a muslim thing, thats why you dont find us make fun of our religion or other´s religions or prophets.

 And that ÝS the whole point

We did NOT demand anyone to say amen to our ideas and beliefs, we just say WE believe in them.

And YOU want to deny US that, by saying how not logic , dangerouse and not logic it is !

Fine...i accept

You believe in what you like and let me believe in what i like without ÝMPOSÝNG YOUR ideas on me or my belief !

 Or maybe its your own feelings and that is what its all about !

And since you are not a muslim yourself, so sorry you cant lecture us/me about Ýslam, even i wont accept it from any muslim except from the one that is able convince me...and that would double it, its sure not you !

 And Why not being Muslim would make you so superior ?!

Ý´ve expressed what i feel while im fasting, its my fasting, and my feelings and you didnt like that !

And you started to question ME about what Ý feel !

Night !