So you´re saying ?!

Ýts fine he was killed ?

Ý dont get your point !

At least that proves my point, you knew about those bunch of muslims who set the fire in Türkiye but you dont know about Ali Mohammed even he was killed at the USA where you live...not thousands of miles away !

Point taken .

Ým sure if i want i can find many other examples in response to what you are saying here and you wouldnt know anything about them as well.

But what i dont get it, is why was its irritating you that much you werent even able to say ´ its bad crime´ when i posted hate crimes against muslims but when the post be hate crime done by muslims you find other examples as well ?

Are crimes acceptable when its done to us but horrible when muslims do it and deserve many comments on how bad muslims can be ?

And you talk about double standards ?!!!!

Peace gals !

Nothing happened to deserve all this.

Ýts TLC habit to change subjects so what ?

Nothing new, none complains !

And if any complains, the answer would be ...Ýts TLC habit, so what ?!

Ýf want wish to join, cool, if not, still cool.

So Peace !

 From what i understand, first one would be better

Ý mean as between lovers, when you say yüzünde gördüm, it would draw your attention more ´as a lover´ to hear what would it make him feel

Kind of emphasis

Other than that i believe 2 sentence are OK

Still correct me if im wrong

 Actually cat, you´ in general´ do enough, even you dont even give us that chance to sympatize with you!

You condemn, judge us from the start, and your post is a prove of that, so was your comment at Marwa´s death too.

Ý dont recall that i ever encourage any islamic hatred action nor supported them so that would you accuse me of double standerd...have i ?!

And i also didnt ask that you express your sympathy or not, you can even support it ...it´s actually your business.

Ý dont understand why do you attack me for , i didnt say violence against none muslims is acceptable But on the other hand you justify violence when done by your people always same way!

My comment/post was about the church action there vs people action

Hmmmm which i dont know would i call them my people or your people by your standerds...they were Muslims, Christians, Jewish..ect 

So i must ask, what did you mean by ´my people?´

 No im not surprised because of that..its really a good thing that people can live and are living peacefuly together

What im surprised and shocked at is the Church ...they said they spread love, and they wanted to teach that to people, but seems people are the one who should teach them that and know about peace more than church does !

 Well Elisabith, its hard to put head in sand and pretend everything is fine, as much as i would love to, because im too my heart is troubled from what we see, but i just cant, they are forced on us.

Ý dont know if you meant me by what you said or not

But when posting a news about hate crimes aginist muslims would that be using the site as a tool to prove" how they are being treated badly but when posting hate crimes muslims did that would be showing the real face of Ýslam ?!

We have many posts like that dont we ?

Ým just in the middle of discussion with german who think and let me quote

´´ think about 80 Percent of european people are thinking like me. Maybe more. BUT we stay peaceful, thats the big difference compared to your culture´´

And that is think Muslims have no place at Europe and they should go back home, and they are the source of all evil !

So you see, even i´d like to pretend that everything are fine, see the world through pink glasses im forced to think again and i dont have the luxury to do so .

Ý wish you say that out loud Elisabith maybe more people would understand that it can happen, we can live in peace together and stop exchange the hate that they already spreading !

 Like it happened with Marwa El Sherbini, our Egyptian woman who was stabbed at courtroom in Germany 18 time and the police shot her husband who was helping her and also stabbed 5 times.

What is making me actually mad is the reaction of people at forums, youtube ..etc

Some is happy and calling for more death

Some saying , and many women die for honor killing ´ i dont understand what does this really justify´

Some saying we dont want Muslims living with us, go home ´ ok dont come to our countries too ! ´

Some saying the killer is a hero

And few, really few saying its sad dont condemn all german society for that !

They Truly...TRULY hate us with a full meaning of that word in a way i never expected nor dreamed of !

They plant hate, and then blame us !

And cant understand why !

If you let a young girl decide for herself whom she will marry, she will pick someone unsuitable. 

Well, if they are too young or immature to decide, then dont marry them young and wait they are mature enough to pick, choose, decide !

Anti-Islam church sign stirs up community outrage

The Dove World Outreach Center in northwest Gainesville posted a sign that says "Islam is of the devil."

Those behind a sign posted in front of their northwest Gainesville church, proclaiming in red letters "Islam is of the devil," say it´s a way to express their religious beliefs and is a message of "a great act of love."

Some living near the Dove World Outreach Center, however, are outraged and disappointed with the sign´s message, which has sparked protests and acts of vandalism at the church since it was posted over the weekend.

http://www.gainesville.com/article/20090708/ARTICLES/907081008

And as a result ...

Church Sign Says ´Islam is of the Devil´: Anti-Islam church sign stirs up community outrage

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlZuco4zOew&feature=channel

And protests from all people actually, Muslims, Christians, Jewish,..etc... the community

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65DqeEoE6qE&NR=1

What i dont understand how this would be a massage of love and peace as people at the Church claim?!

None heard of him im sure, even i found hard time trying to collect those info

Ýmam Ali Mohammed  burnt alive at his house when he went to clean it before he actually leave to another area because of  anti-Muslim harassment , but... they were faster !

Ýmam Ali Mohammed, formerly of Yermo, was found dead- burnt alive- at his house. His house was a lot that contained several buildings, one of them was used as the Yermo mosque. In 2007, that mosque was burnt down. The suspects were arrested, however, it was not considered a hate crime.

Imam Ali´s family is well known in the High Desert- those of you not familiar, California has a high desert northeast of Los Angeles, the cities of Palmdale, Lancaster, Edwards Air Force Base, Rosmond, Barstow, Victerville, Apple Valley, and others make up this region- he was a regular khateeb (Friday Sermons) at the Palmdale Mosque. He was the father of nine kids, Jordanian immigrant, who had resided here for some 30 years ago.

Imam Ali´s Mosque in Yermo served some 200 Muslims in that area and some 22 families were regular attendees. Imam Ali decided to close up and move his family to Victorville, some 30 minutes away. The family says they had had a difficult time dealing with the anti-Muslim harassment and prejudice by individuals in the area.

Imam Ali went back to his house in Yermo, after reports came to the family that the house had been vandalized.

The Pictures are here

http://cair-california.org/index.php/News/Hate-Graffiiti-at-Yermo-House.html

Source:

http://affadshaikh.blogspot.com/2009/07/hate-crime-in-inland-empire.html

Another with Video

http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/story?section=news/local/inland_empire&id=6898362

The irritating thig is, if he was a priest in Türkiye, Egypt or any other Muslim country, the WHOLE world would have know about it and would goes for days and days at the Media how torrirists Muslims are !

May ALLAH rest his soul !