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Thread: Ýmam Ali Mohammed Burnt alive !

81.       CANLI
5084 posts
 26 Jul 2009 Sun 12:55 am

 

Quoting catwoman

 

 

No, of course this crime is not acceptable, I have said it before, but I am wondering if it is this way for some Muslims! When a muslim person is hated and killed for her/his religion, it seems to concern the Muslims around the world, but when the Muslims hate and kill others, does that concern you? I am simply wondering if your concern for hate crime is only there when Muslims are the victims or if you truly care about people in general.

 

 You dont get it !

When there are 2 families living in one place, one black, and the other is white, when anything bad, wrong has been done, others point to the black everytime

When its proven correct, family of the black says, he is wrong, he should be corrected

Then happened again and again, always blame the black even without evidence, then when the white does something wrong, they also blame the black because he done wrong before

Blame the black and excuse the white

When black did something bad to black one like him, it goes peacefuly, whites dont even care...as in ´good they are killing each others´

And its happening same way always

So tell me, would the family of the black keep saying he was wrong and he should be corrected ?!

Well, you already say more than that, when he´s guilty and when he´s innocent .

The rule became, he  always to blame and white always innocent....so be it !

 

Btw, when Muslims commit hate crimes we do condemn them but actually you dont hear and dont want to hear too.



Edited (7/26/2009) by CANLI



Thread: Burqa

82.       CANLI
5084 posts
 26 Jul 2009 Sun 12:41 am

 

Quoting ReyhanL

 

 

 With what right you say we deny the existence of God ?????

 

 Sorry, i dont get it

What do you mean ?!

Who deny the existence of God we call him/her gavur.

Ýf you dont deny the existence of god then we dont call you gavur...its what you chose, say not i !



Thread: Burqa

83.       CANLI
5084 posts
 26 Jul 2009 Sun 12:39 am

 

Quoting ReyhanL

 

 

 I think all cames from the fact that sectarians are calling eachother ´brothers and sisters´ and i felt like..i cant exactly explain...something like world will be divided in to: brothers (sisters) and the rest

 

 Well, at US you would find black people calling same, brothers and sisters, and they are not Muslims, not a condition i mean, but they are just black

What im saying, its not something only belong to Muslims, but many others.

 

Ýn our understanding, as human we are brothers and sisters in humanity and also as Muslims we are brothers and sisters in religion.

We dont actually call each others brother, and sister, we sometimes do we sometimes dont, and also some of us do and some of us dont...its not a rule you know.

 



Thread: Burqa

84.       CANLI
5084 posts
 26 Jul 2009 Sun 12:32 am

 

Quoting lady in red

 

 

 So - what are you calling me then QueenT???  or Canli???

 

 Calling you LÝR ?! Unsure



Thread: Burqa

85.       CANLI
5084 posts
 26 Jul 2009 Sun 12:30 am

 

Quoting AlphaF

 

 

I am not going into a discussion of what "infidel" means or whether or not it is equivalent in meaning to the word " gavur".

Gavur, to a Moslem, means someone who denies existance of God; as such,  Christians, Jews etc. who recognize the same god, but follow His different prophets can not be called gavur.

 

 

 

 Well said Alpha,

Christians and Jewish are not gavur, they are just as they are , Christians/Jewish

Gavur who denies existence of God



Thread: Ottoman fruit drinks, þurup to þerbet

86.       CANLI
5084 posts
 25 Jul 2009 Sat 10:21 pm

 

Quoting Deli_kizin

 

 

 Just a question. Arabic is written with the basic consonants right. So for shurup and sheribe and sharban etc we would have ÞRP. Now, if we don´t put things like fatha, kesre and zamme for vowels (sorry if the words arent correct arabic, but this is how they teach us in Ottoman language), can ÞRP be both Þarap and Þurup? And nobody would know who is right?

 

 Ãt can be, but we would also know which is which from the sentence

Þrp as a verb Like Mehmet Þrp Ýllaban ´Milk´

Þrp Ýllaban Mohem ´Drinking milk is importnat´

Þrp Allaban ´ Milk has been drunk´

You see we write them all same, with same letters, but still we would understand which is which.

And in our writtings, we actually dont use  fatha, kesre and zamme when we write, we write without them.



Thread: Burqa

87.       CANLI
5084 posts
 25 Jul 2009 Sat 09:04 pm

  But Queent, i believe gâvur is Kafir which also arabic, and its an adjective means the one who deny the existence of God.

And it can be used as insult word too, but people use it ´when they shouldnt´ to anyone muslim, christian..any.

Thats what i know, i dont know if its same with Turks or not.



Thread: Burqa

88.       CANLI
5084 posts
 25 Jul 2009 Sat 08:55 pm

 

Quoting Queent

 

 

a turkish one said they call them : yabancý, ecnebi, gâvur
sorry if one of this words is an offensive one

 

 Ã understood both, and they are not offensive, it means stranger

Ý believe gâvur is Kafir..that would mean the one who doesnt believe in any god, and its not an insult its an adjective.

Kafir is the one who deny the existence of God .



Thread: Burqa

89.       CANLI
5084 posts
 25 Jul 2009 Sat 08:52 pm

 

Quoting ReyhanL

 

 

 You dont have anything?

 

 What would giyavur mean ?!

You mean a name in daily speaking as a nic to call none muslims ?!

No we dont have.

But sure if we are talking about religious division, we call everyone by what he is..like Muslims, Christians, hindu...etc

 



Thread: Burqa

90.       CANLI
5084 posts
 25 Jul 2009 Sat 08:45 pm

 

Quoting ReyhanL

 

 

 Turkish yes had

 

 What do they call them ?



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