Well, if i think that, its my problem not yours, still i have an idea for you

Why dont you ask a little boy/girl if you dont eat for a long time would you feel/understand the meaning of hunger more than the one who eats or not...

And tell me what would he/she say !

And before you criticise me for having my own believes which i dont impose them on others, you can look at yourself first you think because you are not muslim any more, you know better about Ýslam and you can breach us about Ýslam and muslims and guide us to the light if you believe there is one !

  Ãts not about making my beliefs weaker, it wont elhamdülillah even its making it more stronger too

The issue, why do they have the right to enjoy their holy event peacefuly and we dont !

Why do they and we exchange Christmas greetings here and when it come to Ýslam we exchange criticism ?

Do you think we muslims believe in Christianity or other religion, dont you think we do have our criticism as well ?

We think that Ýncil not all of it the words of God, and it was set by humans, thats why you find verses contradicting the others

We see that Christians dont agree among themselves even one one holy book or one date of the birth of their prophet...and more and more

Have we said that on Christmas or something ?

Or we greet them on 25 December and at 7 of Jan even we dont believe in all of that !

Ýts not effecting my belief, nothing could do that..except me

But it would make you mad when you treat people good and they treat you bad in return !

And you wonder, why dont i do same !

Ý believe im not a new member and you just knew me and read my thoughts now so you say that is the real face

Ýf after all that time you are able to know and judge  the person in front of you just now, im afraid you have many things you need to learn in life and non could relay on your judgement ! 

At least not me !

You can ask around ´seems you not able to know it by yourself´ im the same person now and 3 years ago !

So only muslims should respect others, and others shouldnt respect them UNLESS they feel like it ?!

No sorry !

 Ã fast for 15/16 a day as you say, and you dont, so sure i can have better idea than you.

Ýf you want to know how would it make you sympathise more with Somalia and the poors, try to fast for a month and find the answer for yourself !

Mad actually, and not just today, but also yesterday too.

Since i thought to come here to TLc at Ramadan ´and that was a mistake it seems´ and i dont find anything related to our holy month but criticism/attack, you name it !

We as muslim didnt demand non muslim to be muslims, we didnt demand them to fast, even we didnt suggest it ...!

We just fast and try to enjoy our holy month !

Yes, we enjoy it...you may understood that or not, but we enjoy that month, we enjoy fasting, we enjoy breaking our fast, we enjoy Bayram after it..WE ENJOY THEM.

They our holy month/bayram...events and we enjoy having them.

As you also enjoy your fast, enjoy your Christmas and you dont find any criticism from us

Not because we believe in what you do, not because we dont think that what you believe in is logical or the correct things, but

Because simply we respect your choice and we respect the fact that you have the right to enjoy your holy events.

But things are different with us

Because appearntly, you believe we should respect you/your beliefs, and you should NOT respect us/our beliefs, unless when you feel like it !

Ý really had it !

Ý had enough really, if you want to have mutual respect, you must offer it as much as you like to take it !

 Thats what Trudy were replying to

As you see iLoVetHaTx3 wasnt asking for anything other than respect the other´s belief and that is what Trudy were objecting to

So, you tell me !

 Ã believe iLoVetHaTx3  has already answered your question .

And as for updating our books, we just have one book which is Quran to set the rules for us and thats the one we follow and sorry we dont do that, we dont update or change what God sent, its same book since the time it was delivered till now and till eternity inþallah.

And as for enlightenment, why would you expect that muslims will accept enlightenment from non muslim about something related to our religion ?

Do you find that logic ?!

Wouldnt be more logic that we know more about our religion and why ALLAH order us that and for what reason better than non muslims ?!

 Well, if you dont respect us, and our belief, how would expect that we can have any sort of communication between us ?!

Ýf you dont respect us, how would you expect us to care more or less to answer any question or to share any appropriate debat at anything with each other ?!

Yes actually handsom, and im still laughing too lol

Ohhh boy you REALLY cant stand it lol

Dont worry about my blood sugar level, im healthy and strong elhamdülillah, i can fast .

Ýt doesnt effect us, but sure it effect people who couldnt take it lolll

Ýts MY head, and its MY glory and its MY religion, what is YOUR problem then ?! lol

We are talking about Fasting in Ramadan in Ýslam faith, and you say its wrong in your belief, what belief if i may ask ?

Anti Ýslam belief ?! lol

Sure thats what it seems!

And no, you cant stand it, you cant stand having people proud of their religion, Ýslam and holding tight on it and see it their glory

You keep talking and repeating yourself about freedom, human rights..bla bla ...etc

But when it comes to Ýslam you wipe all of this...the issue to you that Muslims should stop believing in Ýslam, and how can we corrupt it by reforming it.

Anything...but the main thing is...we stop believing in it...!

Didnt i tell you, that you had your choice...let us having ours and dont try to impose your guardianship over us

We are not kids, and we are smart, intelligent, have minds and able to use them AND we choose to be muslims still

Just accept it !

And have i told you that i have kids so you worry about them ?!

Let´s worry about our kids and you worry about yours.

Or do you want to convert our kids in order be bring them up properly as non muslims ?!!!

And ohhhh, Ý will pick the fasting to enjoy those feelings and will leave  drugs and group theraphy to you !

 Btw, that was low !

Ý didnt force you to believe in my religion, so you SHOULD respect my choice in believing in it !

And not compare it to having drugs !

Ým not mentally ill handsom !