Mosques are house of God, we build them to pray in them not for people to visit as sight seeing ...thats the purpose of them.

We as muslims have our rules of praying as any other religion also has.

Ýn ours, women pray in a different place other than men, we dont actually go to see things but to pray, so Mosques fulfil their jobs for us.

Never the less, no one can stop anyone from visiting the mosque too.

Ýf we want to visit the Mosque and see things as you say, we do it on not praying times, no one stop us  from entering any mosque on that time, but at praying times its not acceptable, we are not sight or something so people come and watch us while we pray !

When we visit at non praying time and anyone point out to the place where women pray as a nice gesture from them assuming that we want to pray so they help directing us to the right place, we just say thank you, im visiting the mosque and then i will pray . ´ As Muslim when we enter a mosque to visit mosque  we pray a greeting pray for the mosque´ 

Ýn here Egypt, as muslims we cant visit any Church, we actually cant enter as long as we are muslims not at praying times, or non at any times, unless that Church is ancient one and open for public, but on the other hand, you can enter any mosque no matter old or new.

 Dont you mean the youtube link ?

Yes i did, thats why i told Tami that guy is Anwar El Sadat.

The one who said enemies of our enemies are our friends.

How else would i know who he is if i didnt look at the link Trudy ?!

Ý know you didnt mean him but El mufti .

What Anwar El Sadat said would explain the relation between El Mufti and actually if im not mistaken not only him but most of the countries which were under the occupation of the British and the Germans on that time.

Ohhh Tami

The guy who said that is certainly not the mufti lol

He is our late president Anwar El Sadat ALLAH rest his soul when he was at his parents´ house at his village, dressed as common people at villages and even sitting with them at the ground.

ALLAH rest his soul again, he was never ashamed of what he was, he was  proud and never forget his roots but proud of it even after being the hero of war and peace.

Sry, but not in my life would i be able to understand how would anyone accept or even think about giving up willingly !!! part of his land to anyone or for any reason even if it was desert !

Ý´d call it conspiracy not democracy !

 Done it and you ´general term´  werent interested

http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_27720_154

Even it was done by Muslims, in a muslim country too, and we as muslims point out to it even here at TLC but it wasnt appealing enough because the victim was muslim not Christian or any other...you didnt know about it at your country because your media werent interested.

Do you want to play ´ what if ´ ?

What if the victim were Christian...want to guess what the reaction would be ?!

No need, yes?

Actually, for that educational part, i have new trend in cases like this after trying the other ways before i found out self education if the best.

PS: sorry for not replying earlier, i wasnt around

Sorry again for being late, actually we are in Þaban now and very much close to Ramazan with normaly many things to do at that time of the year so things become abit hectic and time more tight...

What you’ve asked is not a question that i can answer while just passing by TLC to check things , to answer such question it would take time to try to explain things our way/point of view ‘ and it did’ specially that im just a normal simple Muslimah not very educated one in Ýslam and not imam too, but i guess that is what you are asking ... what would a normal person think

So im just representing a regular muslim point of view i believe.

As for the declaration as itself...for us as muslims, its not saying anything new, its just stating what we already know in 1,2,3 way

Maybe it was a way to put things into papers for countries to sign or something and maybe to offer others good understanding about what we believe !   

From here i should start by small introduction about our faith that will make it ‘i hope’ more easier for you to understand how we see things.

First, we believe that God a holly divine ....creator, cant be described by the avarage words nor knowledge that we have, HE has no alike so that we can describe, not a man nor a woman.. creator of the all forms that we know and we dont even know too, so by that logic HE is more greater than what ever things HE creat, greater than human so HE cant be one, greater than the sun/ the moon so HE cant be one either...just greater than what ever HE creat, so HE cant be any form less or equal to HÝS creation!

We as human are the highest creation of HÝS creatures, thats why we carry the responsibility of the living... we are akýllý

Since the time ALLAH created Adam..HE was supporting us ‘humans’ giving us the rules that we follow according to our understanding and development too

As a creator its normal and also logical that HE set the rules for us.

Even we as humans do this too in our countries by the goverments which rules those countries, we set the rules .

And  we as individuals follow those rules when we live in a country we follow its rules represented in the law, we dont change the constitution of the country according to what everyone of us like, we as a whole  just follow them  and those rules, law were set by human not God who actually created us and the earth we living on too !

Anyway, that was a side point...

Second, Ýslam is not just a religion in the form of faith... its both faith and constitution of life.

Meaning, Ýn Ýslam we dont just learn that no God but ALLAH and Muhammed SAV is HÝS last messenger.

Ýts not just about praying, zekat, fast, hac and how to form them, its not just about what are the sins that we shouldnt do and what are the goods that we should do...

Ýts also a law, way of life, constitution of the Muslims...for example if we do sin ‘X’ the punishment would be ‘X’ and in order to apply that punishment there are some evidence must be available for the judge or else judge cant apply that punishment and if this happen or that happened it would be ‘y’ not ‘X’ ....etc

So you see every Muslim know that, because as you know our resource of Ýslam are just 2 Qur’an and Sunna ‘Hadith’

Those rules or constitution are in Quran so no muslim would disagree on that...we all know that, we all believe in that

So we already have our rules, our conistitution that we should follow and we know we should follow even at same time not many of us may follow.

As human rights are granted to you by your constitution, also human rights are granted to us by our constitution ‘Quran and Sunna’

Ýts not seperated, its something with in it...in Ýslam everythings are organized, written, same as in any civil constitution you know

Ýts deal with our daily life issues also same as in any law set by human and you accept...its not messing anything.

Because as i explained its not just a faith but also constitution.

So from here, i have explained 2 points of our believe

1.    God have no alike...not man, not woman or whatever.

2.    Muslims have believe that Quran and Sunna are our constitution .

When we believe in something  we dont pick, you dont take what you like and abandon what you dont like...if you do that you would destroy the whole idea from that faith

The core !

You just cant reform what God sent ‘Ýf you believe HE is God and if you truly believe HE sent that’by other that you like except if God HÝMSELF reform it and find a way to tell you about it...and as no angels walk in the streets i would find it hard to be done !

Meaning, Ýf you believe in God and that your religion is sent by HÝM how come you would refuse to follow what this God ordered you ?!

HE is not a friend of yours so you agree or disagree with, HE is God, The creator, if you believe this, then you should follow what HE order, if you disagree, and you dont follow, then you dont believe HE is God and the creator there is no other way around i believe.

Not logic that you would think you know better than God, would it ?!

Ýn that case, if you think you should reform what God said because they are not suitable or something, then i would respect it more and find it more honest and also logical if the you ‘in general term’ say no this faith not suitabe to me, i dont believe in that all together, i have my own believes or whatever .

So as muslims, that is what we believe, we dont disagree and says ‘’ohh yeah because this or that were sent by man or something ’’ because as i explained earlier we dont believe HE sobhanoh is a man.

We have our own rules, and we understand why ALLAH ordered it that way ‘ for those who ask and want to know’

But some of us as individuals apply them and some dont...but even in that case if you discuss with any muslim and said you know you should do this or that...he would say yes, and even if he didnt know, you would be able to open Quran karim and show it to him and he wont be able to say anything about it...except ..ok i know now but i wont apply ‘if he doesnt want to apply’ and in that case its something between him and ALLAH

And as for the system...well, its another story !

PS: Ý use the word ‘believe ‘ but what i mean about it its something deeper than believe as i said we call it Yakin or Akida..but i cant find the equivalent to it in English

Ýsrael teaching muslims about the beauty of Ýslam !

Israeli Web site advises using wisdom of Quran

http://www.cnn.com/2008/TECH/12/05/quranet.website/index.html

Grosbard´s project has already been met with suspicion in the Muslim world.

"Israel wants to lure Muslims into its trap by interpreting the Qur´an in a way that suits Israeli projects," Sheikh Shawqi Abdel-Latif of the Egyptian Ministry of Awqaf (Religious Endowments) has told Al-Masri Al-Youm newspaper.

Dr. Manae Abdel-Halim Mahmoud, professor of Qur´anic sciences at Al-Azhar University, also blasted the Israeli project.

"Israel only harbors enmity to Islam and Muslims," he said.

"This project aims to tarnish the image of Islam by giving wrong interpretation of the Noble Qur´an."

http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/Satellite?c=Article_C&pagename=Zone-English-News/NWELayout&cid=1213871531782

May ALLAH help us, even using our religion too !

 Ãm not missing anything gg actually i dont even have the chance to miss anything lol

You wouldnt need me to hear about anything muslims did , you ´in general term´ do a very good job that even we hear about them from you ´your media´ first hand and here too at TLC 

hmmmm,  Ã thought my example was clear  

 Sry Trudy for being late, im not around much, you mean 1990 deceleration?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cairo_Declaration_on_Human_Rights_in_Islam ?

Guys, i see no reason for all of that or am i missing something ?!

Let´s not give things more than they deserve .