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Thread: You need to know at least three languages

81.       Dilara
1153 posts
 08 Jan 2008 Tue 04:33 pm

Well, I think learning foreign languages really expends your thoughts as it allows you to know another cultures deeper and also ways of thinking , point of views , traditions etc and yes, I think the more languages you know, the more culture you get !!
As for english language , everybody uses it BUT not everybody can write good english so I also congratulate all turkish users who write amazingly , considering the fact that for many of them, it wasn't easy to learn english due to the differences in grammar and structure with turkish...



Thread: MUTLU YILLAR = HAPPY NEW YEAR

82.       Dilara
1153 posts
 31 Dec 2007 Mon 11:55 pm

I wish you all a Happy New year 2008 from warm Latin America!
Dilara.



Thread: classes??

83.       Dilara
1153 posts
 30 Dec 2007 Sun 10:04 pm

Merhaba KedyCano! If you are a new member, welcome to Turkish class!
Dilara.



Thread: eng-turk please translate short one

84.       Dilara
1153 posts
 30 Dec 2007 Sun 09:57 pm

If you clarify what you want to say, I might help you



Thread: A question

85.       Dilara
1153 posts
 28 Dec 2007 Fri 05:24 am

Visit word2word.com



Thread: tr to eng please

86.       Dilara
1153 posts
 28 Dec 2007 Fri 05:23 am

Quoting helen~~~~:

askim seni unutmadim, haklisin biraz ihmal ettim. songunlerde biraz yagundum.



My love I forgot you , you are right . I neglected (you)
In the last days I was a bit tired (I think yagundum is yorgundum).



Thread: please is very short!! T-E

87.       Dilara
1153 posts
 27 Dec 2007 Thu 07:07 am

" Instead of going to the paradise without you I would prefer to be together with you and go to hell"



Thread: Sex and the City

88.       Dilara
1153 posts
 26 Dec 2007 Wed 07:49 pm

Quoting ciko:

hey hey i want her to stay this site would be like black and white films witout her



She insults turkish nation , turkish people , turkish language, turkish class members , people's points of view and you want her to stay here...
One thing is exchanging opinions in a friendly way, make good jokes but another very different is having as a target what she has : spoil this website .

or where you just kidding when you wrote so?...



Thread: TURKISH LANGUAGE IS A MATHEMATICAL LANGUAGEl

89.       Dilara
1153 posts
 26 Dec 2007 Wed 07:10 pm

Quoting SunFlowerSeed:

Language fights vol.XXXXX

I saw that people were not happy with my comment.
And it looks like nobody got what I meant.

I am just trying to take your attention how it is a waste of time trying to show your language as the perfect one for humanity.

I read 2 books about languages, well... long time ago; (don't remember exact names, sorry)
1. was Türkçenin gücü (Power of Turkish)
2. was Power of English

In the English one, I think the author was American, he was boasting English over other languages and comparing English with other languages.
Having the richest vocabulary, having a perfect grammar for every situation, the present perfect tense etc.

I don't remember if the author of Türkçenin gücü was comparing Turkish with other languages, but she was also boasting Turkish.

And I believe there are similar books in almost every languages in the world.

There are about 3000 languages spoken in the world nowadays.
The number is not exact, there are dead languages and dying ones. And even with the languages, which have a handful of speakers, it has never been a problem for the speaker to express his/her thoughts to the other party of the same language.

There are language families, as we know, they are usually grouped according to their grammatical similarities. Turkish has relatives in this family, so it is a bit easier for those people to learn Turkish when it comes to speak with thinking. A member of the family can speak another language, if s/he knows enough words, slowly with thinking every word.
As I started to learn Korean, a family member language with Turkish, I could speak better and faster than my European schoolmates in my class. But it doesn't mean that I can speak that language perfectly in 1 day. But it is true that I learnt faster. But another European friend who stayed in Korea 1 year could speak better than me.

People speak without thinking, so no language is a problem for its speakers, thus there is no perfect single language for humanity, since everybody can speak his/her language as s/he wishes.
But when it comes to learn another language, especially the ones having a very different grammar structure than your first language, can give you a shock at the beginning.
But, after some time spent with learning/studying, you will know how to adapt your brain to that language, so you won't need to do mathematical calculations to speak it.

When you study a foreign language, the flexibility of your brain improves. So when it comes to a point, you will not need any math or pre-thinking to express your ideas.

Turkish is a logical language according to linguists but not the perfect one in the world. There are many logical languages, such as Finnish, Korean, Hungarian etc.
But being logical doesn't mean that it is easy to grasp that logic for everybody. You need to know all suffixes and words and how to combine them together to be able to speak it. And while studying those grammatical details you also start to speak without thinking, since it requires a great amount of time and study to master a language. So being logical is not a big advantage for foreigners to speak Turkish. Or being unlogical doesn't mean that language is not learnable.
For example; English for Turkish people.
(See i made up that "learnable" word with my simple English knowledge, and also sure that it is wrong because my software is underlining the word with red line) But I think you have understood what I meant.

For simple phrases that are used in daily life, you just memorize them, you don't need any logic.

There is no perfect language which doesn't have irregularities in its grammar. English has more, Turkish has less. I think French has the most. But the speakers of English and French are more than Turkish. So, nobody cares whatever the language they speak is logical or not.

Do we know how our brain stores the data ?
Do we know what is its logic ?
Do we know if the logic of a language is applicable to our brains ?
Can someone teach me Swahili in one week ? (Which also sounds like a logical language)

So, it is better not to boast a language over others and try to show a language is better than another one.

Keep studying hard whatever language you are trying to learn.



Nobody wants to fight SunFlowerSeed , dont see it like this in spite of the fact that THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE who love to transform EVERY SINGLE THREAD into one "fight" .
If you consider that your words were misunderstood , you have all the right to clarify things.



Thread: Sex and the City

90.       Dilara
1153 posts
 26 Dec 2007 Wed 07:04 pm

femme_fatal I pity you...You just come here to insult people or make fun of everything that is posted here , DO YOU REALLY HAVE A LIFE OF YOUR OWN?????? dont you have anything else to do other than offending people?
Dont you realize THAT NOBODY WANTS YOU TO STAY HERE???????????????????????????????



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