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Thread: new 'learn turkish' website

151.       Dilara
1153 posts
 23 Oct 2007 Tue 11:29 pm

This site is hard-to-leave certainly! It is much more than a language tool! I am sure many of us began to like it
There are many valuable members (turkish and non-turkish) and I am so glad such helpful people stay here...!
Link için tesekkur ederim oceanmavi !
Dilara.



Thread: please translate this sentence

152.       Dilara
1153 posts
 23 Oct 2007 Tue 01:10 am

Quoting ireland:

i dont understand what you say on msn.write to me in turkish and i will translate it.thats if you want to chat.



Msn'de ne demek istedigini anlamadim. Bana Turkçe yaz ve çevirecegim - Eger konusmak istersen .



Thread: Turkish Vebs in Context 4

153.       Dilara
1153 posts
 23 Oct 2007 Tue 01:07 am

Thank you so so much for your help,
I really appreciate it!
Dilara.



Thread: military question...

154.       Dilara
1153 posts
 23 Oct 2007 Tue 01:05 am

Quoting aşkelebek:

i heard there is an age turkish men must join the military by...could anyone tell me what age that is?

thank you!



You can postpone it if you are studying but after you graduate , you have to do it anyway and serve for a few months , I think 6 .
Tukish members can be more exact on this.
Greetings!



Thread: Turkish soldiers killed at border today...

155.       Dilara
1153 posts
 23 Oct 2007 Tue 12:58 am

Quoting AlphaF:

DILARA,
You are right when you say people should have knowledge about a subject, before they feel qualified to express opinions on it..

My own experience with Kurds is that most of them are very nice people too.

What you must understand however, is that Republic of Turkey contains many other ethnic groups other than Turks and Kurds...The number probably runs above 20, an no government offers schools to fit the needs of all exinting etnic groups in a country.There is no ban on Kurdish in Turkia: Your nice Kurdish friend however is misleading you . What he should tell you is that the official language of the state, by constitution, is Turkish, and that the state schools offer education in other ethnic languages (no Kurdish, no Lezgi, no Greek, no Armenian...etc). But talking your own language within your family, friends, printing your paper in your language, making music in your language etc. is free.

The same rule applies when citizens have to deal with the state, say in courts..trials are held in Turkish, but state provides citizens who can not express themselves in Turkish, free translators. After 85 year into this new republic, I think Kurds are the only ethnic groups who still needs this assistance. (founders of the republic had peacemeal remnants of an Empire in thir hands (as people), they figured a common official language between all (Turkish because Turks had the largest numbers) would be a better tie, than 26 different private languages...towards forming one united nation)

It is however free for members of all different etnic groups to set up their own schools under government control and help their youngsters learn their mother tongue and inherit their own etnic culture. Some etnic groups like Greeks and Armenians have schools of their own, if they chose to attend. Kurds have also started their own TV brodcasts and language schools, but are now closing them down because there is no popular demand for such institutions; they are commercially unfeasible.

Turkey has no problems with other etnic groups (citizens) in Turkey, least of all the Kurds. No average Turk is dumb enough to wish condemn any Kurds to miserable lives.(you must realize most of the Kurds are moslems, and there has been extensive intermarriage for years betwwen Kurds and Turks: almost any Turk has a Kurdish relative by marriage or vica versa. How can a Turk normally discriminate Kurds, if he has two Kurdish duughter-in-laws and a dozen half breed grandsons? ..or vica versa. Ok there may be some old laws that has to be changed or improved, but even the hottest Kurdish fanatic can not deny that state is genuinly working towards more democracy, human rights, better distribution of wealth etc...not only for Kurds but for all citizens.

Democracy is freedom, yes.

But if and when some members of this emerging democracy decide to use the freedom of democracy to separate a part of the common motherland and rule it independently, or fancy taking up a part of the motherland and sharing it with ethnic brothers of a different country....democracy has the right to defend herself, she is not helpless...

You now have a different opinion on the issue...Pls check the correctness of my slightly too long statement with your nice friend...see where he disagrees, ok?



Thank you so much for your opinion and the information you provided! It seems there is much more tolerance and it's not exactly as I was told. Actually, I didnt know many of the facts you mentioned in your post, I thought Kurdish Language was still somehow "banned" .
Thank you once again, I'd like to share this with my kurdish friend.

Dilara.



Thread: Turkish soldiers killed at border today...

156.       Dilara
1153 posts
 23 Oct 2007 Tue 12:46 am

Dont treat ALL TC members the same way!! Not all of us come here just to learn about "frivolous" things or Turkish Resorts , many of us are TRULY interested in Turkey and all it represents ! Please be more RESPECTFUL and avoid generalizations!! - This goes to the ones who said that most members here are not interested in this kind of affairs!-
Thank you!!!!!
Dilara.



Thread: Please translate.....break up letter

157.       Dilara
1153 posts
 22 Oct 2007 Mon 10:05 pm

Mylo you always help with translations, even long ones like this! It's very kind of you



Thread: Turkish soldiers killed at border today...

158.       Dilara
1153 posts
 22 Oct 2007 Mon 09:19 pm

This subject REALLY interests me! but for a chilean person like me, It is very complicated to understand because of many factors like geographical reasons , lack of clear information - The TV news in Latin America mostly support the USA Point of View on foreign affairs!- ... I did some research and was reading about Kurdish people's history, background, what they are asking for , something about PKK however, I think only informed people can give their opinion on sush a sensitive topic !!!!!! I dont feel I have enough knowledge to give my opinion, however, I know a very nice kurdish guy and he is trying to explain the "Kurdish version" of this conflict and...I feel so sorry for kurdish INNOCENT people, they say most kurds are very peaceful people and just want to live peacefully together as brothers but also told me about the hard times when kurdish language was banned , when he could not study in his mother tongue and many other things, the story of his people REALLY AFFECTED ME , you cant imagine...!!! they want to be independent from Turkey, they want to have their land and govern themselves, I think this is never going to happen and I just hope no more innocent people suffer because of this... I just try to understand BOTH sides...hard task!!!

I perceive, however, that most turkish people respect kurds , some consider them as "brothers" as I pointed out but of course, there must be many who consider kurds nothing but a problem ...I wonder, do most kurds consider themselves as "Kurdish" or "Kurdish but part of Turkish nation" ...do their aspirations have ANY chance to come into reality in the future? do their aspirations have ANY VALIDITY??
Dilara.



Thread: HOW CAN I TRANSLATE THESE SENTENCES INTO GOOD ENGLISH, PLEASE?

159.       Dilara
1153 posts
 21 Oct 2007 Sun 06:05 pm

Prym dont underestimate your english
Bence , Ingilizcen iyi gidiyor! ve yardima ihtiyacin varsa , bana sorabilirsin (hem ingilizce hem ispanyolca)
Cuídate!
Dilara.



Thread: Can some1 please give their opinion.....

160.       Dilara
1153 posts
 21 Oct 2007 Sun 06:01 pm

-Try to be polite especially with Elders.
-Do not reject the food they offer you, no matter how much it is !
-Do not wear too revealing clothes.
-Bring some presents if possible.
I think you could be "yourself" somehow...
I am sure some turkish friends will give you more "tips"
Dilara.



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