............and a Caucasian is a white person.....????? It´s a pecularity of linguistics....and some exploit it for different reasons.  Maybe we should call countries by numeric formulas?

There seems to be a trend now to define countries by a single ethnicity...silly.........nobody is pure anything.....we are all related.

If you have not noticed the English have quite a varied look....because they are a mix of different tribes...

same is true of the Germanic groups...Saxons, Teuton, Franks............and on and on..... Then there are the Celts.....

You are falling into a trap.....Turk is both a nationality......and an ethnic derivation.............as is a Pole an ethnic derivation and a nationality name....like a Caucasian....and it goes on and on.....you make it a big deal....what do you want to do....rename the country?

my..........you live such a sheltered life....

Language is filled with these discrepancies......tell me....do you,, or others, consider you Caucasian?

...........so what part of the Caucasus are you from?

If you are a citizen of the Republic of Turkey, you are a Turk

Citizens of Poland are called Poles....and the Poles are just one tribe of the Slavic tribes of what is now the Polish State....much like many countries took the name of whatever dominante tribe was there...like Germany...and German tribes...

IOW...this is much ado about nothing...........

I agree with you...she had no way to consent....not only was she under age, he also drugged the poor thing.  I really feel the girl (now a woman) has been humiliated enough. It´s tragic she has to go through all the publicity again, it´s too bad there isn´t a way to protect her identity.

Just because someone is a great artist, does not make them a saint.  How about Leni Riefenstahl?  Nobody can dispute her artistry....maybe it´s more about the victim?  Are female rape victims not important?

I can´t believe there is any dispute about the criminality of his action.

Arab girl? What kind of Arab? As I understand, there is a great deal of diversity in the Arab world.  For instance are you from Saudi, Yemen, Palestine, Oman, Dubai, Lebanon.....or....Tunisia.......or?  Turkey also has a great deal of diversity.

  Most men do not find desperation appealing.  In fact most people run away from anyone who displays desperation.

I think you misread my comment, or I didn´t make myself clear.  What I said is the total community ("It takes a village") needs to be involved in child care, child safety.  My "good old days" comment was in quotations, if you notice.

You are correct, child abuse, exploitation is not new.  It has been going on a long time.  In the past, it was a tabu subject.  Now that it is openly discussed and we are seeing more of it, parents and those responsible for the well being of children have become overly protective.  There must be a better way.

I agree with most of what you say Elisabeth.  I think another issue is...."it takes a village" type mentality. In the "Good Old Days"...lol....community members took more responsibility for the children............

Another issue is....children need time to be with other children.  There is a time for parents to play with their children and a time for them to be with other children.

Parents and responsible adults need to be aware of where their children are.

I think the reason you don´t see many children playing outside is because of the fear of child abduction.  Given some of the news lately, it seems to be a well founded fear. Look at the case of poor little 11 year old Jaycee Dugard, Elisabeth Smart...............and sadly a very long list of stolen children.

Stiff

The curious life of human cadavers

by Mary Roach

It was certainly interesting.  I heard inverviews with the author numerous times, and thought it sounded interesting.  Still, it´s not something I probably would have bought, given the subject, but I found it during one of my garage sale adventures being sold for one dollar. How could I resist?

Anyone who is thinking about making a donation of their own cadaver would well benefit from reading this book.