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Thread: Ramadan in Turkey

1251.       alameda
3499 posts
 25 Aug 2009 Tue 01:06 am

 

Quoting thehandsom

 

 

I have no intention to ´breach´ you and Queent

The point here that you, because of fasting, seeing yourself as a BETTER person than the others who do not fast..

 

 

 Hmmm....I didn´t read anyplace where Canli or Queent claimed to be superior to  others not fasting.  Rather, they showed gratitude and thankfulness as a result of their fasting.  IOW they showed an increase in compassion.



Thread: Ramadan in Turkey

1252.       alameda
3499 posts
 25 Aug 2009 Tue 12:57 am

 

Quoting thehandsom

 

 

You are not making sense at all with above...I am not breaking anybody´s iman at all here..

 

Who knows? Do you really know the effect of your words? Do you know who reads your words? Now as I write there are 44 online users, 22 logged on...........then there are those who will come later and read your words....do you know how your words effect them?



Thread: Ramadan in Turkey

1253.       alameda
3499 posts
 25 Aug 2009 Tue 12:32 am

 

Quoting thehandsom

 

 

I do not THINK you are not respecting others ideas here..

 

 

 Well thehandsom, you aren´t exactly respectful either.  In fact it seems you take special delight in trying to break people´s iman.

 

Of course, you can not prove there is, or there is not.  As I have said before, iman is like an extra sense, it´s like seeing, hearing, tactile sensation....some are born deaf and blind.



Thread: Ramadan in Turkey

1254.       alameda
3499 posts
 24 Aug 2009 Mon 07:32 pm

 

Quoting lady in red

 (Please Alameda, Canlý and QueenT etc. - no long posts explaining the true meaning of Ramadan/Ramazan to me - I am not disrespecting Muslims, Islam or Ramazan - just voicing my opinion)

 

 

 

 Ummm....Excuse me???? Now is that prejudice or what? I have made one 16 word comment in this thread...............and it was only in response to Deli´s comment about attempting to fast. 

 

I have NEVER attempted to explain the "true" meaning of anything here....much less Ramazan.  I have only attempted to focus a ray of light on some aspects of truth, as I understand it.

 



Thread: Ramadan in Turkey

1255.       alameda
3499 posts
 24 Aug 2009 Mon 04:36 am

 

Quoting deli

I have nothing but admiration for all who fast for one month ,today was my first attempt ,I managed it ,but it was so hard in the heat. Tomorrow I wont fast ,I will prepare myself for the next day. All I  seemed to do all day was ask what the time was ,than when iftar came I was so excited about having a glass of water ,how we take these luzuries for granted ,but that glass of water tasted like pure heaven to me ,and this was just one day of fasting ,you guys that fast for a month are unbelievable ,I. admire your strength and commitment.

 

Congratulations Deli!

 

It was an amazing experience wasn´t it?  When you fast, each day is unique.



Thread: Lockerbie Bomber goes free

1256.       alameda
3499 posts
 24 Aug 2009 Mon 02:37 am

 

Quoting Daydreamer

 

 

But, despite all that controversy around him, he was proven guilty, right? I mean he was in jail for a reason (I am not discussing here whether or not the sentence was right as I don´t have enough knowledge, just the mere fact that his imprisonment meant finding him guilty)

 

That does seem to be the case, although, there does appear to be some controversy regarding the judgement. 

 

My comment was regarding this comment:
"..............you keep saying this man "may or may not have" been responsible....when you can prove to me that he isn´t responsible then I will have comapssion for him"

 

I don´t think it´s ever wrong to have compassion.



Thread: Lockerbie Bomber goes free

1257.       alameda
3499 posts
 23 Aug 2009 Sun 10:41 pm

 

Quoting girleegirl

 

 I don´t speak for the American people...I speak for myself. 

 

And you keep saying this man "may or may not have" been responsible....when you can prove to me that he isn´t responsible then I will have comapssion for him. 

 

 

 

Well praise the Lord for that!!!

 

Guess you missed the "Innocent until proven guilty" part of USA jurisprudence?

 



Thread: Healthcare?

1258.       alameda
3499 posts
 21 Aug 2009 Fri 11:01 pm

 

Quoting Elisabeth

I am not sure what the percentage is, alameda, but as I am sure you know, only a very small percentage of Americans participate in our government.  Perhaps if more people where involved, we wouldn´t be in this mess. 

 

As for whether to put my health in the hands of the insurance companies or the government....tough call!  Government is big and will look to save money....insurance companies are smaller but look to make money!  The fact of the matter is, people need to be more concerned about government and their health and less concerned about the latest celebrity gossip (just my opinion!)

 

 Perhaps if we had more education on healthy living it would help....things like eating healthy food, healthy life styles.  Things like food combinations, what´s in the food we eat.

 

You know, if I could, I´d make visiting nursing homes mandatory for everyone, but in particular young people.....so they can see what can happen.  Maybe having students do some simple tasks for credit could reduce the load?....but of course you get into labor laws....and all that...arghHead bang

 

As for the celebrity gossip.....I agree with you on that....however maybe seeing the results of some of the bad decisions those celebrities make could teach a lesson?  Anna Nicole Smith was a tragic story, Britney is another.  Sadly, it´s only the glamour that is focused on......and the recent story of Jasmin Fiore.....glamorous model suspected of being murdered by her reality show Megan Wants  a Millionaire contestent husband Ryan Jenkins.....

 

All that glitters is not gold....and maybe gold really is not that desirable anyway?



Edited (8/21/2009) by alameda [spell]



Thread: Healthcare?

1259.       alameda
3499 posts
 21 Aug 2009 Fri 10:15 pm

 

Quoting Elisabeth

I will agree and disagree with you alameda -

 

On getting sick or injured in the US - We do have some of the finest medical centers in the world in the US.  We have places like MD Anderson where people come from all over the world to get cancer treatments they can´t get anywhere else.  Some of our level one trauma centers set the standards for traumatic injury treatments that occur all over the world.  We are and always have been on the cutting edge of transplant surgery technology, so on and so forth.  YES, we do have a lot of things wrong but we DO have a lot of things right.  

 

On nursing homes - Nursing homes are horrendous places but not just the US.  Nursing homes have older and/or sicker patients whose families for whatever reason, can´t or won´t take care of their family members.  Many of them are bed ridden and incontinent.  They are always sad places because most people go there to die or they are recovering from a devasting illness or trauma.  Many of these patients are on Medicare/Medicaid (government run programs) which reimburse very poorly.  Nursing homes have very high overhead and can´t afford to give quality care because they don´t get very much money for doing what a lot of family members won´t do for their loved ones. 

 

Many of these people either do not have family that CAN help them, or they work and can not help.

 

Don´t misunderstand me alameda, I know we need to improve our system and there are many good aspects to the healthcare bill that is currently on the table....however, I have worked in healthcare long enough (and worked in VA and military hospitals) to know that OUR government is probably not the best suited choice to run healthcare.   The insurance industry needs to be reformed, pharmaceutical companies need to be reformed (government grants them 20 year monopoly on all new drugs!!), but I think our government is far too corrupt to take care of the people I love. 

 

I do hear you when you say people need help.  I agree.  People do need help.  My office is located in the Emergency Room of a downtown hospital.  I see the need everyday.  But I am concerned that many aspects of the bill are not meant to help these people but to pay lip service to those of us who are demanding change.

 

 You are right Elisabeth; we do have some of the best and most cutting edge research.  We also have some amazing facilities, it´s just that not everyone can afford them, or even know about them or are able to get into them.

 

As for trusting our government, we are our government.  If it´s corrupt and inefficient, whose fault is it? I have been involved in grass roots programs and have noticed our main fault is our pass the buck syndrome.  We always seem to want someone else to take care of the problems.  

 

Maybe another issue is that some have an unrealistic idea of just what to expect.  However, I do think basic preventative care, and maintenance should be available to all.  By the time things get to the emergency level, a lot of productive time has been wasted, and what perhaps could have been a relatively inexpensive problem becomes very expensive.

I think we are drug crazy. We want symptomatic relief...and NOW....we don´t like to feel any pain.  Sometimes a little pain is good, it tells you where the problem is, you know? 

 

 I don´t think the private insurance industry would do any better at the job of keeping us healthy, and....they have the incentive of making money in the mix. 

 

The sicker we are...the more profits they can make.  This I have experienced first hand.  Give you this, that causes that, for which we can give you this...and on and on and on.....were as if they hadn´t given "thisnthat" in the first place none of the rest would have been necessary.  



Thread: Healthcare?

1260.       alameda
3499 posts
 21 Aug 2009 Fri 07:47 pm

 

Quoting Daydreamer

I´ve never had any experience with the American Health Services but I´ve seen Moore´s Sicko and that made me happy I am not in that system. Since we´re discussing medical care in different countries, here are my two cents:

 

Poland - theoretically medical services are free. Everybody pays contribution to National Health Fund if they work (about 150pln=$5. This grants you free access to your GP and specialists, also free hospitalisation. Too bad specialists have contracts with the NHF for a limited number of procvedures. For instance, a dentist is contracted for 2,000 extractions a year. So, if he runs out of free extractions in April and you need to have it, you won´t be seen to. You need to look for a different dentist or pay. In practice it is only the GP that Poles go to using the public (free) system. Gyns, dentists etc are usually preferred to be seen privately. One of the reasons is that it takes you ages to have an appointment with a public specialist. Fortunately private fees are not very high, for example, a filling at the dentist´s is less than $40 (that´s why loads of Brits go to Poland to have their teeth done - the standards and services are high but the prices are low). There´s loads of bribery in hospitals, basically to make sure a relative of yours is taken proper care of, you need to give bribes to the personnel. Sad but true. Sueing a doc in Poland is hard as Medical Board consists of other doctors who hardly ever sentence one of theirs..

 

Ireland - you may have a private insurance (about €700/year/3 people family), or you may decide to be a private patient. A visit to a GP is about €50, a night in hospital in a public bed is about €60. There´s a law that says you cannot spend more than €100/month/family on medicine, everything over that sum is covered by Drugs Payment Scheme. Also, you can not spend more than €600/year for medical services like hospitalisation and all money above that is covered by the state. If you are a low-income family or are over 70 you get a medical card that entitles you to a free medical services.

 

 Sigh....sounds great!  The thing about bribery....doesn´t sound so great though.  The reality of the situation here is if you have to be in a care institution for any time, you really need an advocate (careing friend, family member or loved one) around.  That is someone to be there to see that you are getting good care. 

 

Nursing homes are the worst.  One does NOT want to go to one of those places without an advocate.  I have visited, and still visit a few people who have been in nursing homes recovering or finishing their lives.  The facilities are  horrors!  I´m not disparaging the workers, theydeserve much more than they get and should get medals for what they do, as they  are over worked and underpaid.   The enviornment is depressing, it´s not a healthy one either. It is hard just to visit them and not come out depressed.   They smell of urine and feces, someone is always screaming and you don´t know if they are having a psychotic episode or really in trouble.  One time I heard a woman screaming and screaming over and over again.  When left the person I was actually visiting to peek in her room, it turned out her bed was badly broken.  I was able to call and get help for her. 

 

You do not want to get sick or injured in the USA.  We need a better system.  From what I´ve read about Netherlands care, it´s really enviable.  We need some sort of Universal Healthcare...NOW!....actually yesterday...but now will do...We are the ONLY industrialized country without a universal health care system.



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