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Thread: Stereotypical people

1221.       alameda
3499 posts
 05 Sep 2009 Sat 06:02 pm

 

Quoting AlphaF

I never said it was surprising; I did mean it was disgusting.

 

I´m sure you are aware of this story...

 

Somalia Piracy Began in Response to Illegal Fishing and Toxic Dumping by Western Ships off Somali

 

That does give another dimension to the issue....



Thread: Stereotypical people

1222.       alameda
3499 posts
 05 Sep 2009 Sat 05:55 pm

 

Quoting _AE_

 

 

I dont think there is anything unique about being fed propaganda in school history lessons.  Each country feels they are immune to it!  I spent most of my adult life discovering that the "history" I was taught in schools was actually very biased and not always completely factual!! lol 

 

It is the job of "youth" to question authority and question establishment.  Unfortunately in the past few decades "youth" seem to be apathetic to truths and are more interested in the me culture.  The only student uprising we are likely to get is if they tried to ban mobile phones! lol

 

Sigh.....me too....what a shock it was to find out the beautiful story was not true! +++



Edited (9/5/2009) by alameda [add]



Thread: Stereotypical people

1223.       alameda
3499 posts
 05 Sep 2009 Sat 05:13 am

 

Quoting Melek74

I happen to agree. Especially since there seems to be a bit of a dislike between black people from USA and immigrants from Africa or the Carribean. It doesn´t seem fair to lump them all together.

 

Diclaimer:

The above is not meant as representative of the opinion of all Blacks in the USA and is based solely on a hearsay from a friend who immigrated from the Ivory Coast.

 

Actually this is an accurate observation......in general....the slave trade was a collaborative venture between Africans and Europeans.  In some Africal tribes, a twin would be done away with....being sold into slavery was a profitable way of dealing with it.   Some were prisoners of war......or... there were many ways to become a slave. 

 

I think the way these black African slaves were treated was unique.  As a more easily identified group, they were easier to target.  Any group that was easy to identify as "another" was treated in a similar manner....but the difference is the brutality of the treatment of those enslaved.  It was unique in it´s cruelty.  Those black humans were dehumanized, treated like animals or worse.  It´s hard to determine how many in the International community profited from their labor...even today....labor that was unpaid and done with  great suffering.

 

Read the story of  Solomon Northrup......

 

I think it all boils down to the fact that humans are in essense a social animal...aka...a pack, flock or herd animal.  It boils down to "us and them"......who is a member.."in good standing"....of the pack? Large flocks get winnowed down...to many smaller...more manageable ones.

 



Thread: Stereotypical people

1224.       alameda
3499 posts
 05 Sep 2009 Sat 01:47 am

 

Quoting _AE_

 

 

Big difference, the others were not dragged over there as slaves...

 

 

..........no....some of them were invaded....IOW they were already here....like Amerindians.  FWIW...most Mexicans are at least part Amerindian............and at least a third of the current US was part of Mexico.



Thread: Stereotypical people

1225.       alameda
3499 posts
 05 Sep 2009 Sat 01:45 am

Head bangHead bangHead bangHead bangHead bangHead bangHead bang

 

It is what it is.....around here people are Latino, Chicano, Salvadoreno...or whatever they are - American. If they are Asian...they are Chinese-American, Japanese-American, Korean-American...or what ever they are....and it they are mixed they are that. Have you heard the term Bi-Racial, or Tri-Racial...or Multi-Racial?

 

Quoting teaschip

 

 

 I´m not always politically correct Melek..Big smile  I just think the whole African American title is just non-sense if you have NEVER even lived in Africa, I don´t think the title of African American is appropriate.  I´t like me saying I´m Irish-German American.  Another category we have here is Asians.but who is really an Asian?  Isn´t India partially in Asia...Then we went to caucasions..but it appeared to be a struggle for people to spell. Big smile So to simplify..Your either American, black, other race or Mexican...and yes I would lump all Spanish speaking countries in this group.

 

 

 



Thread: Stereotypical people

1226.       alameda
3499 posts
 05 Sep 2009 Sat 12:54 am

 

Quoting barba_mama

 

 

 Thank you And to all other people, why are you hijacking this thread Post another topic in the forum about racial slangs or something and stop confusing the girl who wanted some REAL advise

 

Welcome to TC barba mama......if you did not notice her question was answered numerous times already.  As threads usually digress after a few pages, this one has also.  You will just be banging your head Head bang against the wall in getting upset about it....I know...it used to drive me crazy....now I just follow the thread...or try to guide it by posting something relevant in the thread.

 



Thread: Stereotypical people

1227.       alameda
3499 posts
 05 Sep 2009 Sat 12:47 am

 

Quoting _AE_

 

 

 Agreed - as per my earlier post

 

 

Of course......you............as always.............are so well informed Flowers.............and knowledgable....at least your people have figured out how to have a decent health care system

 

Unlike some places

....Health Care in the USA



Thread: Stereotypical people

1228.       alameda
3499 posts
 04 Sep 2009 Fri 11:17 pm

Hmmm...what an amusing thread....

 

Actually....Malcolm X talked about Afro Americans a lot earlier than Jessie...

 

"During the next three weeks, we’re going to have a series that will be designed to give us a better understanding of the past, I should say a better knowledge of the past, in order that we may understand the present and be better prepared for the future. I don’t think any of you will deny the fact that it is impossible to understand the present or prepare for the future unless we have some knowledge of the past. And the thing that has kept most of us, that is, the Afro-Americans, almost crippled in this society has been our complete lack of knowledge concerning the past. The number one thing that makes us differ from other people is our lack of knowledge concerning the past. Proof of which – almost anyone else can come into this country and get around barriers and obstacles that we cannot get around; and the only difference between them and us, they know something about the past, and in knowing something about the past, they know something about themselves, they have an identity. But wherein you and I differ from them is primarily revolved around our lack of knowledge concerning the past. And tonight, this is what we would like to go into. Next Sunday night, it’s our intention to go into the present, some of the tricks that are used to keep us at the level that we are on by making us think that we’re going forward when we are actually standing still. And then the third Sunday night, the 31st, it’s the intention of the Organization of Afro-American Unity at that time to spell out what we think are the best steps to take, and at that time also offer a program that we feel Harlem, people in Harlem, can participate in toward getting that objective or solution into becoming a reality."

 

 

Actually the PC term now is Person of Color....not colored persons, or colored people.....IE woman of color, man of color....and so forth.  At last we realize we are mostly mixed people.  Some are pure European....they are European Americans...Ted Kennedy was one of our more famous  Irish Americans.

 

The term Black American, or just Black is still in use.

 

Quoting _AE_

 Excuse me?  I can´t see your point   The only thing I see is that your definition was wrong

Where have I mixed up Jesse Jackson with MLK?

 

 



Edited (9/4/2009) by alameda [add]



Thread: what caught my eye today

1229.       alameda
3499 posts
 02 Sep 2009 Wed 10:17 pm

 

Quoting girleegirl

 

 

 Ya know, I used to enjoy pushing your buttons because I thought you were just a smug, arrogant, pompous ass.  But after your last few posts it seems fairly clear that you really are just a bit of a whack job and that just makes me feel kind of sorry for you.  

 

 

Pushing my buttons.....? it seems you are the one who is going off all the time.  Not only with me, but many others.  I have not stooped to personal attacks.  Anything I have said is based on an analysis of situations.  I am not commenting on my like, dislike, approval of others personal attributes.

 

"whack job"....look who is talking.....perhaps this should be in the menopause thread,  due to the fact you certainly are exhibiting symptoms of hormonal imbalance....irritability and mood swings.  It is called perimenopause....and you are definitly in it.

 

There is no shame to be in menopause.  It is a natural part of a woman´s life.  I don´t know why so many get upset about the natural progression of life´s stages.



Thread: Top three US Presidents (recent ones)

1230.       alameda
3499 posts
 02 Sep 2009 Wed 04:57 pm

 

Quoting Melek74

 

We already had this discussion and you already asked me that here. My opinions have not changed since. Unlike you I don´t experience fluctuations in personality.

 

 

AE said...."Strange - these are the same people who voted Bush back into power with a majority at the previous election to this "

 

Well there have been a lot of talk about that...."Was the 2004 Election Stolen?"

 

AE said...."Actually OUR opinion does matter - it is what democracy is all about or should I say SUPPOSED TO BE about."

..........it seems many have forgotten thatFlowers..........but we also need to be engaged...which means educating ourselves about issues.......Really, it´s sad many do not have the resources to educate themselves...then too many are just too lazy.  Like, It´s not an accident things are so complicated....like mortgage contracts...the fine print...



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