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Thread: Virtual Class Lessons are starting soon

111.       erdinc
2151 posts
 05 Aug 2008 Tue 02:42 am

Quoting Queent:

I am interested but wanna ask are your lessons a part of Learning Turkish groups? because I already asked to be in one of those groups



No. This is a different thing. I will teach for the Turkish Learning Groups as well but right now these are two unconnected issues.

If we compare virtual class to Turkish Learning Groups, the main difference will be that virtual class will be real time (you need to be present at a certain time) and virtual class gives you the ability to speak, listen and ask questions in real time. You will be able to listen any other classmate as well and other classmates will be able to listen to you too.

There is also an interactive whiteboard. This means you will see things as I type and you will type on the same board. In general a virtual class is like a real class.



Thread: Virtual Class Lessons are starting soon

112.       erdinc
2151 posts
 05 Aug 2008 Tue 02:29 am

We will be using the open source free service of dimdim.com. The attendee doesn´t need to download anything. It will be browser based for the attendee. The presenter downloads a small program. I have searched virtual classroom softwares and found out that dimdim is the best choice for our needs. A paid alternative is webex.com



Thread: Virtual Class Lessons are starting soon

113.       erdinc
2151 posts
 05 Aug 2008 Tue 02:20 am

The lessons are over now. We had lessons on 5,6 and 9 August and 13,8 and 12 people joined respectively.  We will continue with new lessons in the future. Date and time will be announced here.

 

Link to the virtual class will be posted here 15 minutes before it starts. Date and time will be announced much sooner though.

 

 

 

Greetings, Soon I will start online lessons in real time virtual environment. Of course it will be for free. You will be able to listen, to speak, to read and to type at the same time. We will use a voice conferencing system but you are not required to download anything. On the other hand you need a headset. If you have only speakers or headphones but don´t have a microphone you can still join but then you won´t be able to speak and I can´t ask you any questions. I will update this message and post lesson times here. (edit: see times above) Lessons will be 50 minutes. The first lesson´s topic is: Lesson 1: for complete beginners noun cases, vowel harmony, question suffix The first lesson could start tomorrow or the next day. I can accept up to 20 learners for a lesson. Who would be interested to join a virtual classroom? This is the first time we will do something like this on this website. Other teachers or moderators will be always welcome to join my virtual lessons as visitors.



Thread: what means emi?

114.       erdinc
2151 posts
 08 Jul 2008 Tue 09:14 pm

It is the slang version of "iyi mi?"

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Thread: musunuz/misiniz

115.       erdinc
2151 posts
 02 Jul 2008 Wed 10:13 am

The question suffix in Turkish is -mı, -mi, -mu, -mü. In fact there are many i type suffixes in Turkish and all of them have the vowels ı, i, u, ü.

The simple past tense suffix -dı, -di, -du, -dü and the present continuous tense suffix -ıyor, -iyor, -uyor, -üyor are just two other examples to the -i type suffix.

You pick the correct suffix according vowel harmony. Vowel harmony for i type suffixes means that :

a and ı is followed by ı
e and i is followed by i
o and u is followed by u
ö and ü is followed by ü

Examples:

Çay sıcak mı? (last vowel is a and a is followed by -mı )
Yemek güzel mi? (last vowel is e and e is followed by -mi)
Ali Türk mü? (last vowel is ü and ü is followed by -mü)
Türkçe zor mu? (last vowel is o and o is followed by -mu)

The other part to your question includes the personal suffixes. Here are the personal suffixes for different persons in noun sentences:

Singular
ben : -ım, -im, -um, -üm
sen : -sın, -sin, -sun, -sün
o : -
Plural
biz : -ız, -iz, -uz, -üz
siz : -sınız, -siniz, -sunuz, -sünüz
onlar : -lar, -ler, -

As you see the personal suffix is mostly an 'i' type suffix as well. They have the vowels -ı, -i, -u, -ü. Therefore they follow the same vowel harmony.

The third person plural is an 'a' type suffix or you could use no suffix for that person. Vowel harmony for 'a' type suffixes is easier:

Back vowels are followed by a back vowel and front vowels are followed by a front vowel. So a, ı, o, u is followed by 'a' and e, i, ö, ü, is followed by -e. Another example to the a type suffix would be the plural suffix -ler, lar or the locative case for nouns -de, -da.

A noun sentence is the type of sentence you would construct with the verb to be (am, is, are, was, were, have been, has been) in English. Instead in Turkish we construct them with those personal suffixes.

Notice that because the last vowel is ü in Türk, we use personal suffixes according vowel harmony to ü.

Ben Türk'üm.
Sen Türk'sün.
O Türk.
Biz Türk'üz.
Siz Türk'sünüz.
Onlar Türk.

"Siz Türk müsünüz?"

In this sentence we have the question suffix -mü and the personal suffix -sünüz. Because the personal suffix at the end is already telling us which person it is, we can drop the personal pronoun 'siz' from the sentence.

As you might have noticed the personal pronoun (siz) and the personal suffix (-sünüz) are doing exactly the same job. If we had the chance to recreate the language we would drop the personal suffix and make the language much easier. Unfortunately this wasn't the case in the historical development of Turkish language.



Thread: 1 WORD ONLY t-e Lutfan

116.       erdinc
2151 posts
 29 Jun 2008 Sun 06:00 pm

There is no such Turkish name or anything smillar to it. The name could be Irona. This sounds to me like a Russian female name. If the name is Irona then Irona'm would mean my Irona, -m being the possessive suffix.

Iroda appears to be an Uzbek female name, not used in Turkish at all.



Thread: Turkish Classes in London

117.       erdinc
2151 posts
 28 Jun 2008 Sat 12:20 am

Hello,

I received a message from a TC member asking me about Turkish schools in London and I decided to post some general info about London area.

In London we have many Turkish weekend schools. Sometimes they are also called community schools or suplementary schools. They all work the same way. They are voluntary organisations managed by Turkish parents. They hire a regular school building for the weekend to organise a Turkish school. Most of the students are Turkish children but there are also classes for adults.

These weekend schools have a yearly school fee to cover costs but it is a reasonable amounth that is usually less than 100 pounds per school year starting from beginning of September until the end of June each year.

On the left side of this page you will find a list of most of these schools. I work or have worked in the past in most of them but not all have adult classes.
http://www.turkishschools.co.uk/membersc.html

Grange Park School (Saturday mornings 10:30-12:30 ) and Southgate School (Fridays evenings 18:00-21:00 ) are two of the schools where I will have adult classes for the next school year. Both are in North London.

Among that list you might find some other schools in other areas in London that have adult classes as well.

Schools have closed now as usual at the end of June and they will open again at the beginning of September. Next year is also my final year in the UK. I have been working for many years in these schools.

Bye
Erdinç



Thread: Two pennies for your thoughts ....!!

118.       erdinc
2151 posts
 05 Apr 2008 Sat 06:00 am

There isn't really. I have lived many years in those areas. Anybody who considers himself a Turkish citizens and shows the least respect to the country (by not using a different flag, by not using a different country name, by not using a different city name, by not carrying pictures of terrorist leader, etc.) is never oppressed.

The musician we were talking about uses the same language as the terrorists. Basically he makes songs to be listened by the terrorists on terror camps. He uses the same fictional names. He makes songs about a country that does not exists but that they want to create by taking a part of our land.

There is a huge difference between making Kurdish songs and making songs that support separationalist terrorists. We have nothing against Kurdish language or culture. You can be a Turkish citizen with Kurdish ethnical origin. In fact there are many who live happly like that.

On the other hand being a terrorist supporter and being understanding to terrorist supporters is not something we can tolerate and should not something you do either.



Thread: Two pennies for your thoughts ....!!

119.       erdinc
2151 posts
 05 Apr 2008 Sat 05:31 am

Catwoman you know very well what I meant when I wrote loyalty to homeland in that topic that needed to be removed.

We have a problem in out homeland. There is a terrorist organisation that wants to separate a part of our land. They give names to that part. On maps they show it divided from our country. They gives names to regions in that part. They give names to cities. They use a so-called flag. They even choose the so-called fictional majors for those places. They use those fictional foreign city names in their songs. They are the same people who fight agains the state.

It is not a matter of supporting Turkishness or not. It is just a simple citizenship requirement to be respectfull to your homeland. This means that you cant support the terrorists and use the same language as them, use the same fictional country, region, city names as them and them expect to get away with that.

What we expect from our Kurdish origin citizens is that they simply are respectfull to the state, the law, the government and they don't support terrorist organizations that want to separate a part of our homeland. What has that to do with Turkishness?

While you know very well that I was referring to terrorist supporters I fail to understand why you would argue against something that I wrote.

Of course being a citizen of a country means being loyal to that country.



Thread: Two pennies for your thoughts ....!!

120.       erdinc
2151 posts
 05 Apr 2008 Sat 04:10 am

You can read the requirements for US citizenship:
http://www.us-immigration-attorney.com/citizenship.htm

The people I was referring are Turkish citizens with different ethnical background who don't even accept the existence our Turkia in some parts. They think it is another country.

From that page above:

Quote:

renounce any foreign allegiance and/or foreign title


Quote:

support the Constitution and obey the laws



Let alone obeying laws they fight against the state. They use the same language like the terorrists. They use fake names for cities and regions.

If you are trying to destroy a country, if you are supporting terorrist seperationalists, if you are naming part of the country as another country, if you give cities different names in different languages, how does this comply with being a citizen of the same country at the same time?



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