funny you have this sekerleme...

i still mix up gelmek en gitmek now and than, and i really have no idea why...! there is no sensible reason for this... strange...

i think you are confused with olman = your being (a noun + a possesive).

in english this kind of noun is called gerund. its confussing because its the same as a negative command in turkish

gelme = (the) coming

gelme = dont come

do you mean for simple present?

that´s mezsin

gelmezsin = you don´t come

this one i dont understand... can you explain this for me?

is it a noun clause? like olma = being, and sýn = you are?

for me it looks like a verbstem+negative+2ndperson suffix.....

i can understand that... if you´re not used to noun sentences its different, but you´ll become used to it!

think of the verb olmak on the end of the sentence but without a space. that is all!

öðrenciydiniz - you were students

öðrenci miydiniz? - were you students?

when you sepparate it you just ´see the verb´ ýn the suffýx:

öðrenci-y-di-niz

noun-buffer-verb-person

öðrenci mi-y-di-niz

noun question particle-buffer-verb-person

i was thinking about the same...

the meaning is completely different!

does anyone know?

it´s not about the ben but about the idim

more than is in the TC lesson? what do you wanna know?

really...?

did i use this wrong all the time :$

and nobody correctting me till now...

i got the impression i was still understood *lol*

maz is negative