Of course, historians may be biased too.

The arguments here descend into personal issues on all sides and this detracts from what could otherwise be an informative debate and that , IMO, disrespects the sad events that take place in Turkey, whether it be the imprisonment of children, "honour" killings, terrorist attacks and more.

There are a lot of Wikipedia references in your columns and I do understand that they are there to inform TC members of Turkey´s history but I would prefer more original historical links, rather than Wiki links, simply because I don´t want to spend time clicking on the many links given in the Wiki links . . . it´s like a maze in there!  I also noticed that one of the references in your column was actually being disputed on the Wikipedia site (even there, they have their differences )

I´m not criticising you personally for using Wiki, it´s a very useful tool, but it, along with mountains of other documentation out there on the Armenian/Kurdish/Turkish issues hotly debated here, is not immune to bias.  We all tend to choose the literature we believe in order to "prove" our points.

It´s interesting to note what Wiki has to say:

The threshold for inclusion in Wikipedia is verifiability, not truth—whether readers can check that material added to Wikipedia has already been published by a reliable source, not whether editors think it is true.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Verifiability#Questionable_sources

I guess we, as readers of the many debates here, have to make up our minds about what we think may be the truth, based on the information presented. 

But in the end, hot or not, the debates are informative, both about the history of Turkey and the feelings that still exist today.

So, insults aside, I would like to thank everyone who contributes, but please move it to another thread.

Perhaps Alameda was alluding to the "hate and chaos" that appears to have developed on this thread. 

Oh woe is you!!

I think we all have had a lucky escape

On your next reincarnation perhaps your name will be Drama Queen

If Turkey is your homeland then I would suggest you write something about Turkish heritage.  If it´s politics (historical or present day) that you wish to write about I would ask you, as a no Turkish member, that you present a balanced discussion in your essay.  I believe this is the best way to inform about the diverse opinions that exist in Turkey.  Whilst I´ve learned alot about conflicting opinions in Turkey, from the many heated discussions here, I would prefer the differences of opinion to be presented in an essay as it´s less confusing (though probably less entertaining).

Of course this will involve reading quite a lot and this can present problems in itself. What to read? Which author? etc.  Some are naturally drawn to reading matter that supports their own views.  I would suggest reading should reflect the different views and then these can be presented in the essay.  Of course you can conclude with your own opinion, but, as I said, a balanced discussion within the essay will give members like myself a more simple format.  It might also avoid the writer from being accused of posting/writing for the purpose of inflaming others.

Good luck!

You´re right! You left your toys too!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YoI56DzAcRg

I found this in left luggage. Yours I think . . .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtCDjV_WrDc&feature=fvst

Words fail me right now but I´ll have my excuse ready for tomorrow.

Nothing springs to mind immediately

99TL initial outlay seems a lot for PAYGo. I wouldn´t really want to enter into a contract in Turkey.  This is more the type of thing I had in mind:

http://top10.com/broadband/compare/pay_as_you_go_mobile_broadband/

My friends have wireless internet in their homes in Turkey, I just thought I would see if I could buy a cheap PAYGo for when I´m not staying with them.  Connection is not always good in hotels.

Thanks anyway everyone .

This seems a reasonable explanation of why some here may perceive a difference in Oeince´s work.  As I understand him, some of his posts are writings that he has pre prepared (not originally intended for this site - an assignment of some kind perhaps?), spending time on crafting/perfecting them, whilst others are more spur of the moment posts, when he has taken less time over "quality" of grammar. 

Oeince has put a lot of time and effort into his posts, and I think he has a right to defend himself vociferously regarding the accusation of plagiarism.

Please note, I am not making any judgement about anyone´s views about the subject matter.