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Belgian Turks and marriage
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16 Dec 2006 Sat 11:22 am |
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I translated this from an article in today's newspaper.
'8 out of 10 Turkish women who came to the Dutch-speaking part of Belgium between the age of 7 and 17, found their husband in Turkey. When it comes to the second generation Turkish women -who were born or came overhere before they were 7- 6 out of 10 married a man living in their home country. The figures for Turkish men living in Belgium are similar.
This is the result of research done by Hilâl Yalçın who works for the Organization for Equal Opportunities Policy of the Antwerp University, and under the authority of the Equal Opportunities Minister.
The number of marriages between Belgian Turks and Turks from Turkey is not decreasing. 'The most important reason for this is the negative image Belgian Turkish boys and girls have about eachother', Yalçın says. Turkish girls living in Belgium think that the Turkish boys overhere don't have much to offer, they don't have a good education and they are too traditional. They prefer a modern, high-educated Turk from Turkey. The B-TR guys think that the B-TR girls are too westernized. They prefer a traditional Turkish girl from Turkey. This image is contradictory and is fading only very slowly. During the 80's less Turkish boys and girls wanted a marriage candidate from Turkey, but their number has increased again.
Jef Gabriëls, mayor of the city of Genk, finds this evolution worrying. 'Research shows that 75% of the Turkish young people in my region would like to marry someone living here, but 75% marries someone living in Turkey. There's a huge difference between dream and reality', he says.'
Food for thought and discussion I'd think 
The article also mentioned a similar research amongst Moroccan people, with similar results. The researcher said that Moroccan people living in Belgium long for something 'familiar', or 'authentic culture', while a young person living in Morocco tries to escape from those..
Do you think this goes for a lot of Turkish people as well?
I posted this article here because I think this is not just a Belgian thing, but rather a West European issue.
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16 Dec 2006 Sat 11:55 am |
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Quoting Elisa: I translated this from an article in today's newspaper.
'8 out of 10 Turkish women who came to the Dutch-speaking part of Belgium between the age of 7 and 17, found their husband in Turkey. When it comes to the second generation Turkish women -who were born or came overhere before they were 7- 6 out of 10 married a man living in their home country. The figures for Turkish men living in Belgium are similar.
This is the result of research done by Hilâl Yalçın who works for the Organization for Equal Opportunities Policy of the Antwerp University, and under the authority of the Equal Opportunities Minister.
The number of marriages between Belgian Turks and Turks from Turkey is not decreasing. 'The most important reason for this is the negative image Belgian Turkish boys and girls have about eachother', Yalçın says. Turkish girls living in Belgium think that the Turkish boys overhere don't have much to offer, they don't have a good education and they are too traditional. They prefer a modern, high-educated Turk from Turkey. The B-TR guys think that the B-TR girls are too westernized. They prefer a traditional Turkish girl from Turkey. This image is contradictory and is fading only very slowly. During the 80's less Turkish boys and girls wanted a marriage candidate from Turkey, but their number has increased again.
Jef Gabriëls, mayor of the city of Genk, finds this evolution worrying. 'Research shows that 75% of the Turkish young people in my region would like to marry someone living here, but 75% marries someone living in Turkey. There's a huge difference between dream and reality', he says.'
Food for thought and discussion I'd think
The article also mentioned a similar research amongst Moroccan people, with similar results. The researcher said that Moroccan people living in Belgium long for something 'familiar', or 'authentic culture', while a young person living in Morocco tries to escape from those..
Do you think this goes for a lot of Turkish people as well?
I posted this article here because I think this is not just a Belgian thing, but rather a West European issue. |
similar studies done within the uk in regards to second/third generation ethnic minorities had the same findings..
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16 Dec 2006 Sat 12:15 pm |
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kız aferin sana bazen faydalı şeyler de yapıyorsun...sende gelecek var..büyüyünce büyük adam olacaksın..devam et
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16 Dec 2006 Sat 12:28 pm |
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Quoting ramayan:
kız aferin sana bazen faydalı şeyler de yapıyorsun...sende gelecek var..büyüyünce büyük adam olacaksın..devam et |
Can you translate this Ramayan? (Or else I'm thinking it's a marriage proposal to Elisa....  )
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16 Dec 2006 Sat 12:29 pm |
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16 Dec 2006 Sat 12:32 pm |
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Quoting Trudy: Quoting ramayan:
kız aferin sana bazen faydalı şeyler de yapıyorsun...sende gelecek var..büyüyünce büyük adam olacaksın..devam et |
Can you translate this Ramayan? (Or else I'm thinking it's a marriage proposal to Elisa.... ) |
This is how I understood it:
"congrats girl, sometimes you do useful things too, there's future for you, growing up you'll be a grand human being, go on.."
and notice the hint of SARCASM  
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16 Dec 2006 Sat 12:53 pm |
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Quote:
This is how I understood it:
"congrats girl, sometimes you do useful things too, there's future for you, growing up you'll be a grand human being, go on.."
and notice the hint of SARCASM
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umm some sarcasm but it was to amke u study harder  hope u r not offended
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16 Dec 2006 Sat 01:08 pm |
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Quoting ramayan: hope u r not offended |
Knowing whom it came from, no 
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16 Dec 2006 Sat 01:12 pm |
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hey in ur pm u said u found a proper photo for my song and u were gonna upload ...wers that photo cmon upload it ..r u keeping it for ur next song?
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16 Dec 2006 Sat 01:13 pm |
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Quoting Elisa: "Turkish girls living in Belgium think that the Turkish boys overhere don't have much to offer, they don't have a good education and they are too traditional. They prefer a modern, high-educated Turk from Turkey. The B-TR guys think that the B-TR girls are too westernized. They prefer a traditional Turkish girl from Turkey. This image is contradictory and is fading only very slowly." |
To be honest, reading the part above made me feel a bit pessimistic. The contradiction between the way the boys and girls think, can't be any bigger, can it?
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