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1.       azade
1606 posts
 31 Dec 2006 Sun 03:39 am

I don't know if anybody knows my background, but I have been with a turk for almost three years now and I'm just 19. It's us and nobody else and we both know it.
My home country is Denmark and the laws are so strict here that I have given up on any chance of living here, plus I don't even think he would like to. I have stayed in Turkey for apprx. 15 months and have grown very fond of the country but I have also seen a great deal of poverty. It was really hard for both of us to get jobs and for a while I worried about how we could bring food to the table just a week away.

With that said, I have done a great deal of thinking (for the past two years!). Of course I want the best life possible for us (and our future children) and as I see it we have one choice: a good education. I'd like for the both of us to study at an university in Denmark but it may not be possible. This is my plan B, I suppose.

Therefore I'd like if somebody would share their information and experiences. I know that as a turk you take the sınav test and are pretty much "assigned" to a certain education but what about foreigners? How is it possible to study at a turkish (but perferredly english speaking) university? I'm pretty bright and speak (spoke, that is. Prior to HIM breaking down my language ) english with an expressive vocabulary.

Please, any kind of contributions are much welcomed!

2.       Trudy
7887 posts
 31 Dec 2006 Sun 09:09 am

How about an exchange program for university like the Erasmus scholarships? And if not possible in Denmark (for him) or Turkey (for you) why not another European country where they have English at university? I know not exactly but there are several possibilities in Belgium, Holland and I think Germany as well. Try Google for EU-scholarships, exchange programs, Erasmus etc. If I can help more I am happy to do so (after I returned from Turkey). The fact that he's not from an EU-country is not important I think, I've seen here in Rotterdam at Erasmus University several students from non-EU countries.

3.       Chantal
587 posts
 31 Dec 2006 Sun 11:15 am

Hey azade!

Look at the way you write/speak English! Why don't you somehow try to get a degree or certificate so that you are able to teach English in Turkey? Thats what Im planning to do as well! And I know a lot of people here are interested in learning English, and are even attending separate courses for it!!

Good luck!
Chantal

4.       aenigma x
0 posts
 31 Dec 2006 Sun 11:44 am

Azade - you need to talk to Deli-Kizin - she is now living and studying in Izmir. She is home in the Netherlands for New Year I think, so won't be online, but why not send her a PM with a link to here

5.       azade
1606 posts
 02 Jan 2007 Tue 01:13 am

Thank you for your tips! I will definitely give your suggestions some thoughts. Turns out that there are more posibilities than I thought at first.

And aenigma - I'll send her a PM. After looking around her profile and posts I think this is the way I am hoping to go too.

Thanks again!

6.       susie k
1330 posts
 12 Jan 2007 Fri 06:08 pm

7.       azade
1606 posts
 12 Jan 2007 Fri 06:30 pm

Quoting susie k:

I know what this feels like, we just struggled and got a two year visa to the UK, it was really difficult to obtain, not so much the interview that was the easy part, it was getting all the documents for his sponsership. Can't your parents sponser him, surely nowheres harder than England to get a visa too?



I know exactly what you're talking about. We struggled to get a three month visa (which is the longest period possible) for four months.
Unfortunately it's impossible for him to come here. At least until I'm 24, or maybe even 28. The laws here are so strict there's no way it can be arranged. Only if he attends university here, which is what we may try to apply for but the chances are very slim. You can't even work here unless you're a doctor or something. These laws (http://www.nyidanmark.dk/en-us/coming_to_dk/familyreunification/spouses/spouses.htm) are actually critisized by several organisations but unfortunately the danish politicians don't care.

I would atually like to live in Turkey, as long as we would have good jobs (hence my wish to go to a university there). Apart from my close family, there's not much holding me back in Denmark.

As far as I understand there are no regular universities teaching courses in english in Turkey? Yani, I would have to go to an extended turkish course first, take the sinav test and then apply to a turkish university?

8.       TURQuazman
213 posts
 12 Jan 2007 Fri 06:51 pm

Quoting azade:

I don't know if anybody knows my background, but I have been with a turk for almost three years now and I'm just 19. It's us and nobody else and we both know it.
My home country is Denmark and the laws are so strict here that I have given up on any chance of living here, plus I don't even think he would like to. I have stayed in Turkey for apprx. 15 months and have grown very fond of the country but I have also seen a great deal of poverty. It was really hard for both of us to get jobs and for a while I worried about how we could bring food to the table just a week away.

With that said, I have done a great deal of thinking (for the past two years!). Of course I want the best life possible for us (and our future children) and as I see it we have one choice: a good education. I'd like for the both of us to study at an university in Denmark but it may not be possible. This is my plan B, I suppose.

Therefore I'd like if somebody would share their information and experiences. I know that as a turk you take the sınav test and are pretty much "assigned" to a certain education but what about foreigners? How is it possible to study at a turkish (but perferredly english speaking) university? I'm pretty bright and speak (spoke, that is. Prior to HIM breaking down my language ) english with an expressive vocabulary.

Please, any kind of contributions are much welcomed!



Azade I searched and found a result, follow the link and download the .pdf files it is 5 parts and read them.

http://www.osym.gov.tr/BelgeGoster.aspx?F6E10F8892433CFF7A2395174CFB32E1A9F7F51EA80CC43B

detail information download link for .doc document
http://www.osym.gov.tr/dosyagoster.aspx?DIL=1&BELGEANAH=8747&DOSYAISIM=OSYM.doc or follow this link for same but online:
http://www.osym.gov.tr/BelgeGoster.aspx?F6E10F8892433CFF7A2395174CFB32E15F640FC6104C033D

9.       azade
1606 posts
 12 Jan 2007 Fri 07:51 pm

Thank you SO much Mehmet! This is really helpful Is the ÖSS the test students take after finishing their Sınav to find out thich university they can go to? And if so, is the YÖS exactly the same as the ÖSS with tests on every aspect - language, mathematics, science etc. or how do they differ?

I'm asking because I haven't taken a mathematics course in two years and have probably forgotten some of it. In Denmark the system is different than elsewhere, so that the majority of the courses I'm taking now are language related. I did, however, finish my math course two years ago with excellent grades.

10.       metehan2001
501 posts
 13 Jan 2007 Sat 01:31 am

Quoting azade:

Thank you SO much Mehmet! This is really helpful Is the ÖSS the test students take after finishing their Sınav to find out thich university they can go to? And if so, is the YÖS exactly the same as the ÖSS with tests on every aspect - language, mathematics, science etc. or how do they differ?

I'm asking because I haven't taken a mathematics course in two years and have probably forgotten some of it. In Denmark the system is different than elsewhere, so that the majority of the courses I'm taking now are language related. I did, however, finish my math course two years ago with excellent grades.



Some more information:
http://www.studyturkey.metu.edu.tr/yos.htm

INTERNATIONAL STUDENT EXAMINATION (YOS)

Application Procedures and General Information

General Principles
This examination, referred to as YÖS, has been designed for foreign students wishing to study in Higher Education Institutions in Turkey and on the results of this examination they can apply to Turkish Institutions of Higher Education. This examination is prepared and administered by the Student Selection and Placement Centre (ÖSYM).

Conditions of Application
Applicants must hold the nationality of a country other than the Republic of Turkey or the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus. Applications will not be accepted from persons with Dual Nationality rights, one of which is for the countries named above. The applicants must have completed or be in their final year of secondary education in a school in which the education is equivalent to that of a Turkish Lyceée.

Procedures for Application
Persons wishing to make application should ask for an “Application Form” and the “ÖSYM-YÖS 2007 Guide”. Requests for these can be made in writing or in person to: “Öğrenci Seçme ve Yerleştirme Merkezi, ÖSYM-SHB, Bilkent, Ankara, TÃœRKİYE”. From November 2006 onwards these documents will be posted free of charge to those who request them in writing and handed out to those calling for them
Persons who fulfil the requierments and wish to apply should send the duly completed Application Form and proof of payment of the application and examination fee. These papers should reach ÖSYM no later than 9 March 2007.

The fee for application and the examination is 50 US dollars.
This year, the Examination for Foreign Students (YÖS) will be held in Ankara (Turkey); and out of Turkey in Kabul (Afghanistan), Mezar-ı Serif (Afghanistan), Tirana (Albania), Baku (Azerbaijan), Dacca (Bangladesh), Cairo (Egypt), Amman (Jordan), Almaty (Kazakhstan), Nairobi (Kenya), Bishkek (Kyrgyzstan), Beirut (Lebanon), Skopje (Macedonia), Kuala Lumpur (Malaysia), Ulanbator (Mongolia), Islamabad (Pakistan), Kazan (Russian Federation), Dakar (Senegal), Damascus (Syria), Dushanbe (Tajikistan) and Tashkent (Uzbekistan) on the same date.

The Examination
The examination is comprised of two tests. The “Basic Learning Skills Test” assesses abstract reasoning. The questions have a minimal dependence on language but explanations are given in Turkish and English. The “Turkish Language Proficiency Test” assesses the applicant’s comprehension of written Turkish.

The examination will be held on Sunday, 15 April 2007.
In order to enter the examination at the Ankara center, candidates are responsible for obtaining a valid passport; for those entering the examination at centers outside Turkey, who are residents of that country, a valid identification card is necessary; non-residents are required to comply with the requirements of the country concerned.

Detailed information about this examination is available on the following pages:

YOS 2007 Guide (English)

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