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How consulate can ruin plans
1.       Loveprague
627 posts
 23 May 2007 Wed 05:17 pm

Hi all,
I am very disheartened about everything to do with travel and consulate, today I tried to amend my flight for my fiancee to travel to the U.K. for a holiday, she has to re-apply for her new visa and this first refusal holiday visa is non-refundable so she has to pay the consulate again her fee for a second visa. I telephoned my airline booking and they told me that if I cancel her flight which was booked in advance I would lose £130.00 of a flight that was priced at £183.00 so that means you only get £50.00 back the other couple of pound is for admin. I was offered an upgrade which they quoted me another £128.00 just to change date of flight plus a £35.00 fee on top for flight amendment. I am now faced with a dilemma do I cancel the already booked flight and lose the £130.00 and then have to book another one? or do I gamble and pay another £128.00 + £35.00 fee for a new flight with the problem of my fiancee still maybe not gaining her visitor visa. I have now lost all faith with the goverment and all services including British Airways along with the consulate. This has put also a huge strain on our relationship. I wanted to write this on the forum to emphasise the problems faced when trying to do things by the book. United Kingdom receive 660 new migrants a week coming into this country and yet I cannot get my girlfriend a visitors visa to visit my family for ten days holiday, really this is getting me so angry. I am afraid you have to take the once 'Great' Britian out and call it free for all Britian!

2.       Mina_TR
50 posts
 23 May 2007 Wed 06:52 pm

Hi Loveprague,

I'am so very sorry to hear about your misfortunes

I know there is not much I can say to you right now to help ease the situation, but only to offer comfort to you at this moment and to just say don't give up. Maybe there is a reason for all this because usually something else works out at the end of a bad situation.

I will pray that something will work out for you soon.



3.       SunFlowerSeed
841 posts
 23 May 2007 Wed 10:39 pm

Hi Loveprague,

This is really weird indeed, they ask for the plane ticket for the visa application, so you should book it before applying for a visa, but it is not guaranteed that you can have the visa and they don't pay you for your plane ticket if you cannot get the visa or you cannot get the money refunded if you cannot get the visa from the airline.
A stick with all two ends are dirty, nowhere to hold it, as we say in Turkish. You have no choice but to follow the rules.

Well, I am giving examples from my life, but I had a similar occasion yesterday. I paid 2 times, 20 Euros each for delaying my departure from Korea. But yesterday, when I went to the airline's office and applied to delay my ticket for another 3 months, they asked for 100 euro that time. The reason was my ticket was out of delayable period and it should be extended. So the money I paid was extension money. I didn't understand why but had to pay the money to get my departure day delayed for another 3 months. So I paid 140 Euros for delaying a ticket for 9 months. Usually a plane ticket is usable for 1 year(as far as I know), but they asked extension money when I passed 6 months. I was careless to check the usage time for the ticket when I bought it. But I had asked what could happen if I want to delay the date and they answered that I need to pay some amount of money for delaying the date when I bought the ticket. But I didn't know that the ticket was for 6 months and they have never told me that.

Anyway,
Be strong ! Bright days are closer than you think !
My prayers are with you.

4.       azade
1606 posts
 23 May 2007 Wed 10:57 pm

Sorry to hear about that Richard It also happened to me once, but they didn't give me any refunds at all so maybe you should just take it..?

5.       libralady
5152 posts
 23 May 2007 Wed 11:21 pm

Quoting SunFlowerSeed:

Hi Loveprague,

This is really weird indeed, they ask for the plane ticket for the visa application, so you should book it before applying for a visa, but it is not guaranteed that you can have the visa and they don't pay you for your plane ticket if you cannot get the visa or you cannot get the money refunded if you cannot get the visa from the airline.
A stick with all two ends are dirty, nowhere to hold it, as we say in Turkish. You have no choice but to follow the rules.

Well, I am giving examples from my life, but I had a similar occasion yesterday. I paid 2 times, 20 Euros each for delaying my departure from Korea. But yesterday, when I went to the airline's office and applied to delay my ticket for another 3 months, they asked for 100 euro that time. The reason was my ticket was out of delayable period and it should be extended. So the money I paid was extension money. I didn't understand why but had to pay the money to get my departure day delayed for another 3 months. So I paid 140 Euros for delaying a ticket for 9 months. Usually a plane ticket is usable for 1 year(as far as I know), but they asked extension money when I passed 6 months. I was careless to check the usage time for the ticket when I bought it. But I had asked what could happen if I want to delay the date and they answered that I need to pay some amount of money for delaying the date when I bought the ticket. But I didn't know that the ticket was for 6 months and they have never told me that.

Anyway,
Be strong ! Bright days are closer than you think !
My prayers are with you.



You do have to read the small print (as we call it) and I too found out to my cost once. I needed to cancel a flight to Istanbul, but I could only delay the ticket at a cost of £50 (GBP) and fortunately for me I was able to use the ticket within the year. Just had to phone when I wanted to rebook and that was it. But then you never expect to have to change your flight.

Everyone is behind you Loverprague and we all wish you success. Hang in there! Be strong and you will succeed.

6.       Loveprague
627 posts
 24 May 2007 Thu 12:23 am

Quoting Mina_TR:

Hi Loveprague,

I'am so very sorry to hear about your misfortunes

I know there is not much I can say to you right now to help ease the situation, but only to offer comfort to you at this moment and to just say don't give up. Maybe there is a reason for all this because usually something else works out at the end of a bad situation.

I will pray that something will work out for you soon.





Hi Mina,
Thanks again for your replies, really I must say this that they do help me focus more and it is a big help


Quoting SunFlowerSeed:

Hi Loveprague,

This is really weird indeed, they ask for the plane ticket for the visa application, so you should book it before applying for a visa, but it is not guaranteed that you can have the visa and they don't pay you for your plane ticket if you cannot get the visa or you cannot get the money refunded if you cannot get the visa from the airline.
A stick with all two ends are dirty, nowhere to hold it, as we say in Turkish. You have no choice but to follow the rules.

Well, I am giving examples from my life, but I had a similar occasion yesterday. I paid 2 times, 20 Euros each for delaying my departure from Korea. But yesterday, when I went to the airline's office and applied to delay my ticket for another 3 months, they asked for 100 euro that time. The reason was my ticket was out of delayable period and it should be extended. So the money I paid was extension money. I didn't understand why but had to pay the money to get my departure day delayed for another 3 months. So I paid 140 Euros for delaying a ticket for 9 months. Usually a plane ticket is usable for 1 year(as far as I know), but they asked extension money when I passed 6 months. I was careless to check the usage time for the ticket when I bought it. But I had asked what could happen if I want to delay the date and they answered that I need to pay some amount of money for delaying the date when I bought the ticket. But I didn't know that the ticket was for 6 months and they have never told me that.

Anyway,
Be strong ! Bright days are closer than you think !
My prayers are with you.



Hi SunFlowerSeed,
First of all it is so nice to have replies to my posts, I know I am not the only one that this has happened to and I do appreciate all the support and Nesrin also does I pass on the Turkish Class members posts and read them to her. I can see SunFlowerSeed that you have encounter some airline charges also with your travel I do sympathise with you for the charges you incurred, they are unformative when it comes to the rules and regulations on tickets and I do think big airline companies really have no heart. I hope those bright days come soon please

Quoting azade:

Sorry to hear about that Richard It also happened to me once, but they didn't give me any refunds at all so maybe you should just take it..?



Thanks Azade,
You did not get a refund Azade? could you tell me where you booked your flight and where you flew to and from it intrests me to see how these airlines work
Best wishes Rich

7.       Loveprague
627 posts
 24 May 2007 Thu 12:25 am

Quoting libralady:

Quoting SunFlowerSeed:

Hi Loveprague,

This is really weird indeed, they ask for the plane ticket for the visa application, so you should book it before applying for a visa, but it is not guaranteed that you can have the visa and they don't pay you for your plane ticket if you cannot get the visa or you cannot get the money refunded if you cannot get the visa from the airline.
A stick with all two ends are dirty, nowhere to hold it, as we say in Turkish. You have no choice but to follow the rules.

Well, I am giving examples from my life, but I had a similar occasion yesterday. I paid 2 times, 20 Euros each for delaying my departure from Korea. But yesterday, when I went to the airline's office and applied to delay my ticket for another 3 months, they asked for 100 euro that time. The reason was my ticket was out of delayable period and it should be extended. So the money I paid was extension money. I didn't understand why but had to pay the money to get my departure day delayed for another 3 months. So I paid 140 Euros for delaying a ticket for 9 months. Usually a plane ticket is usable for 1 year(as far as I know), but they asked extension money when I passed 6 months. I was careless to check the usage time for the ticket when I bought it. But I had asked what could happen if I want to delay the date and they answered that I need to pay some amount of money for delaying the date when I bought the ticket. But I didn't know that the ticket was for 6 months and they have never told me that.

Anyway,
Be strong ! Bright days are closer than you think !
My prayers are with you.



You do have to read the small print (as we call it) and I too found out to my cost once. I needed to cancel a flight to Istanbul, but I could only delay the ticket at a cost of £50 (GBP) and fortunately for me I was able to use the ticket within the year. Just had to phone when I wanted to rebook and that was it. But then you never expect to have to change your flight.

Everyone is behind you Loverprague and we all wish you success. Hang in there! Be strong and you will succeed.



Hi
Thanks it is great to know the support here is shown I feel a little humbled by the support. Thanks Rich and Nesrin

8.       azade
1606 posts
 24 May 2007 Thu 01:54 am

Rich, this particular ticket I booked with the danish agency Tyrkieteksperten and the flight was from Antalya-Billund and Billund-Antalya 3 months later. The tickets were pretty expensive because the AYT-BLL flight was just a couple of days before christmas. They could easily have sold the tickets to someone else but still refused to give any refund.
This has happened to me with another danish agency Anatolien rejser, and the german Condor as well

Come to think of it, some agencies offer the possibility of changing the dates but it's usually pretty expensive.

9.       Loveprague
627 posts
 25 May 2007 Fri 08:43 pm

Quoting azade:

Rich, this particular ticket I booked with the danish agency Tyrkieteksperten and the flight was from Antalya-Billund and Billund-Antalya 3 months later. The tickets were pretty expensive because the AYT-BLL flight was just a couple of days before christmas. They could easily have sold the tickets to someone else but still refused to give any refund.
This has happened to me with another danish agency Anatolien rejser, and the german Condor as well

Come to think of it, some agencies offer the possibility of changing the dates but it's usually pretty expensive.



Hi Azade,
I really understand your annoyance the airline could have given you some sort of refund, they would have sold the tickets Azade to someone else I am 100% certain, so the airline makes the money you paid for your ticket which you lost then sells the same ticket for probably more than you paid to begin with, I think the airlines should have more sympathy for the customer but then they would not make their profits.

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