Alright here's one of my sporadical help-what-should-I-do threads, but hopefully I won't have to ask for more as of soon

It's pretty much certain that I'm gonna move to Turkey for good any time now, and we are going to get a civil marriage when we can afford it. But I guess that won't automatically release a permanent residence visa, so what can I do in order to obtain that?

Is the only way to enter a turkish university to take the YÖS test? If so, where should I start to prepare for it? I know the math part is really hard and I didn't study it for a few years, unfortunately.
If I succeed in entering a turkish university, and I will have to, does the state help supporting foreign students as well or will I (we) be on my (our) own?

In truth I don't really want to go to university but in the long run I just don't know how we will be able to support ourselves if I don't get a proper education.

I'm guessing I'm going to have to find a temporary job, which I'm fine with, but is it easy to obtain a working visa?

If anyone could offer any help to solve my situation I'd be ever so grateful.

I have friends that are faculty at Ankara and Bogazici Universities. I will find out early in the week and get back to you.

have a look this site azade it may help you
http://groups.msn.com/englishgirlfriendsofturkishmen/visainformation.msnw

Oh thank you KeithL I would appreciate that! I guess there's no better source of information than that

turquoise as far as I can see that visa information is for the other way around, people wanting to move to the UK, but maybe I'm overlooking something? I got a 403 error there when clicking on any of the links.

I know of the official website for visas in Turkey but as we have experienced when my husband applied for a Schengen visa, the actual process is just so different from what they officially claim (and much harder! We were really fighting to get it), so I'm looking to hear what people's experiences are, tips on how to avoid rejection etc. Some people say it's hard to get a work permit in Turkey but I don't know if it's true..

I genuinely have no interest in living in my birth country as of now, I'd like to get away from here as quickly as possible, even if it means I'll have to give up my danish citizenship eventually. Originally I was supposed to stay here (in Denmark) until my husband finishes in the army in February but I can't stay here anymore, I really can't.

From what I know:

- There is no other way to enter university but YÖS. Some other diplomas count, but I dont believe the Danish to be valid. İf you have studied in a field at a unversity in Danmark, you might be able to go on a Turkish university without the YÖS test, but your followed courses must match and your results must be higher than 80 percent. In general, YÖS is the easiest way to enter univesity, and there are dershanes with special maths lessons for foreingers. Metropol in Ankara is a well-known and good quality one!

- One of my friends married a Turk and with that received residencepermit with that if Im not mistaken. I do recall the costs to be a lot higher than just a foreign-student residence viza though.

- Visas for higher education are easily obtained with a paper that says you will follow the course (this can be Tömer or a real University).

- The Turkish government usually does not give scholarship to foreigners. It merely depends on where you come from. Some of my course-mates from Kazachstan and Albania received money to pay their course and a burs to pay their stay in the dormitory. But all the people from West europe, (England Holland and Germany were the ones in my class), did not receive anything.

- When married to a Turk, the prices for TÖMER are half price

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If I were you, subscribe to the TÖMER-course of the city you will be living in.
- With a paper that you will study Turkish-course for one year at TÖMER, you can apply for a studentvisa at your nearest Turkish embassy in Denmark. The prices for Holland were around 50 euros and it is done in one day. Upon arrival, you take this visa and your schoolpapers to the police-station and they give you a residnce-permit for as long as the course takes. Final courseday is also departure-day of teh country but you wont have to worry about that since youre getting married.

Also, upon arrival, find a dershane that specializes or at least gives lessons in YÖS-mathematics. You can buy very good books to practice at home from Metropol, if you have somebody to help you (the books are meant for practice and basically are set up for a student who already knows the basics).

After these lessons, you can take the YÖS exam in April, pass maths, IQ and Turkish, and apply for (almost) any faculty of (almost) any university in Turkey. Then you will get a new residence-permit based on the new study you will follow.



Note: once you obtain a student-visa, which is the only way to be accepted into a higher education programme (it is in the acceptance procedure), you are not allowed to work anymore. Your residence permit will have a page saying that working is forbidden.
Besides, an uneducated job in Turkey wont bring you far. And part-time jobs are not as normal as in Europe for students. Actually, no one who studies works, and no one who works, really works parttime.

I dont know how veerything works for Denmark, but since this september there is a change in scholarships for students, and if I were to go to Turkey and study at a qualified university, I would receive the same money from Dutch government as any other student studying in Holland. It is part of the Bologna-concept, you should find out if Denmark joins it, because then maybe they have this new rule as well.

Ya Deli kizin aferin sana!! You know just about everything

Just to get some things cut out in cardboard for me
I should then follow a turkish course at Tömer and math classes at a dershane at the same time?
Or, if I wanted to concentrate on the language course at first, could I still keep my student's visa while taking math classes afterwards?

Because I'd then like to follow Tömer course in Alanya since we have relatives there, I already know the city really well and my husband could easily find work, whereas if I had to stay eg. in Ankara it would get really complicated and expensive.

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Also, while studying I would have to get money to live for from a completely different place? I can't find any information about the Bologne-concept, it seems, but I'll look deeper into it.

Thanks again!

I sent an email to Tömer in Alanya but they have not replied yet. But I'm going to Alanya on Saturday anyway so I may as well just go to their office to see if they can help me I've wanted to join one of their shorter courses before but we just didn't have the money at the time but inşallah things will work out this time around. They have to

I know there are several dershanes in Alanya but they probably don't have any courses in english. I'll ask around when I get there, hopefully I'll be lucky. Right now I'm just so relieved there may be a solution to things afterall, been stressing about this like forever