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06 Jan 2008 Sun 01:53 am |
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Quoting AlphaF: Which religion does ZAMAN support ?
Any educated guesses fron ZAMAN readers? |
I'm not a reader of Zaman, so I can be wrong... Is it hinduism? 
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06 Jan 2008 Sun 01:55 am |
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Quoting zbrct: Quoting AlphaF: A missionary - in this context - is one whose mission is changing religious beliefs of others, usually hiding his real intentions at early stages of contact.
They do not necessarily preach one of the existing alternative divine religions; their real motives may not be religious at all. Some current missionaries are after spreading a new system of divine looking beliefs, in line with political aspirations of their patrons. |
I do not understant what you are trying to say but it sounds paranoia and hate for missionaries. |
WHY SHOULD I, OR ANYBODY, LIKE MISSIONARIES?
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06 Jan 2008 Sun 01:59 am |
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Quoting catwoman: Quoting AlphaF: Which religion does ZAMAN support ?
Any educated guesses fron ZAMAN readers? |
I'm not a reader of Zaman, so I can be wrong... Is it hinduism? |
I dont read Zaman either..my guess is sikhism 
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06 Jan 2008 Sun 02:02 am |
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Quoting AlphaF: Quoting zbrct: Quoting AlphaF: A missionary - in this context - is one whose mission is changing religious beliefs of others, usually hiding his real intentions at early stages of contact.
They do not necessarily preach one of the existing alternative divine religions; their real motives may not be religious at all. Some current missionaries are after spreading a new system of divine looking beliefs, in line with political aspirations of their patrons. |
I do not understant what you are trying to say but it sounds paranoia and hate for missionaries. |
WHY SHOULD I, OR ANYBODY, LIKE MISSIONARIES? |
you do not have to like them and infact you hate them
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06 Jan 2008 Sun 02:07 am |
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Quoting catwoman: I think it is pretty clear that Zaman is a religious newspaper... pro-current government, against the old president. Very biased politically. |
which newspaper is unbiased politically? In fact, the newspapers like Zaman, Radikal and Taraf let columnists with diferent worldviews to express themselves. For example, Zaman is criticized by the nationalists by having an Armenian columnist namely Etyen Mahcupyan. Yes, Zaman is a conservative newspaper but I can say it is more inclusive than some secular newspapers.
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06 Jan 2008 Sun 02:20 am |
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Quoting AlphaF: YOU MAY NOT BE AWARE, BUT ALPHAF IS CURRENTLY ON SOME KIND OF TEMPORARY NICE KID MISSION, PERIOD OF WHICH EXTENDS BEYOND DEC.6, 2008.
I AM DETERMINED NOT TO CALL ANYBODY PEANUT BRAIN, WITHIN THIS PERIOD. |
Either appear as you are, or be as you appear (Rumi).
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06 Jan 2008 Sun 02:23 am |
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Dont push it !
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06 Jan 2008 Sun 02:49 am |
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Quoting kaddersokak: Quoting catwoman: I think it is pretty clear that Zaman is a religious newspaper... pro-current government, against the old president. Very biased politically. |
which newspaper is unbiased politically? In fact, the newspapers like Zaman, Radikal and Taraf let columnists with diferent worldviews to express themselves. For example, Zaman is criticized by the nationalists by having an Armenian columnist namely Etyen Mahcupyan. Yes, Zaman is a conservative newspaper but I can say it is more inclusive than some secular newspapers. |
Etyen Mahcupyan has been a prominent writer and a columnist in Turkia, long before ZAMAN first appeared in print. He has referred to himself on a TV show as a TURK with Armenian heritage. Unless he shows himself to be a clown in future, his word is enough for him to be honored by nationalists.
Being a literary admirer of his is one thing - respecting him as fellow citizen is another.
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06 Jan 2008 Sun 03:41 am |
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Theoritically speaking, journalism is one of those honorable occupations on account that it serves one of the most important of man's necessities: to be informed. Nevertheless, theory and practice are two different things. With the kinds of journalists we have, pride, honor or integrity are to be confined to the mottos printed underneath newspaper logos.
Do you expect impartiality or factual reporting? Well, in todays media industry, frontiers have already been determined. Just like it goes in a Dylan song: "You gotta serve somebody", in this fierce world too, you gotta serve somebody and do your service well to get your prize from the politicians.
If a newspaper starts a salvo of criticism directed at the ruling party, you can be sure that they will go on with that unless they are either get a reward or in some cases a punishment from that party. The usual outcome is a sudden change in the tone of that newspaper. If you are careful, you may observe that things become just the other way around when the expected happens.
For my own part, I would never read Zaman. If you like what you are reading and don't care about who owns it and what the whole newspaper operation is meant to serve then it is the right newspaper for you...
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06 Jan 2008 Sun 04:46 am |
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Quoting vineyards:
For my own part, I would never read Zaman. If you like what you are reading and don't care about who owns it and what the whole newspaper operation is meant to serve then it is the right newspaper for you... |
It seems because of your political view you do not like-or I should say you hate- that newspaper and that is why without looking its content you say you would never read it. (note that Zaman is a highly circulated paper in Turkey. for the last 2 0r 3 weeks it is number one interms of circulation)
As for, supporting government you should also mention the newspapers on the other side which critize EVERYTHING that present government does. So, I would not trust them either.
I am sick of that ideological bigotry and that is why I choose newspapers based on their content. So my favourite ones are Zaman, Taraf, Radikal, and Birgun which are ideologically on opposite sides.
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06 Jan 2008 Sun 08:11 am |
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Thank you everyone for the discussion here. This is exactly why I began the thread. I wanted some education on the 'press' in Turkiye. I think reading more than one newspaper is essential in order to be more informed about what is going on in Turkiye.
Thanks again
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