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Finally Turkish military withdraws
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20.       teaschip
3870 posts
 29 Feb 2008 Fri 10:06 pm

So will this be considered their 26 mission..I don't understand what was the point.. :-S

21.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 01 Mar 2008 Sat 04:17 am

image!
http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/02/29/europe/turkey.php

22.       catwoman
8933 posts
 01 Mar 2008 Sat 05:46 am

Turkey just embarrassed itself and only showed those terrorists that the country is powerless against them.

23.       SuiGeneris
3922 posts
 01 Mar 2008 Sat 07:44 am

Quoting catwoman:

Turkey just embarrassed itself and only showed those terrorists that the country is powerless against them.



hmm? against whom to terrorist? is that what you understand only? Why Turkey should be embarassed... i cant see your point of view...

the terrorist already know the power of Turkish Army have no doubt about it...

24.       catwoman
8933 posts
 01 Mar 2008 Sat 08:40 am

Sui, that's what I think. Why do you disagree? What is your conclusion from this conflict?

25.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 01 Mar 2008 Sat 01:08 pm

Turkia conducted a military excursion into Iraq. Announcements before the excursion were,

1. It was only against PKK. The Iraqi civilians would not be targeted.
2. Turkia had no intention for a long term invasion of Iraq and that the excursion would be kept limited and timewise short.

No announcements were made as to what exactly was expected to be achieved by this operation. It was clear however that the effort was a part of Turkish determination to destroy terrorism. Most PKK bases now gone, 80% of terrorists who did not escape killed, the area totally surveyed for the next operation, Barzani and Talabani shown to be what they really are in terms of any resistance to the Turkish Army, minimal casualties suffered - this operation is a success story.

Turkish promises to Iraqi people were kept (So are my promises to Canli). As far as I am concerned all tactical and strategical targets for the moment must have been achieved. Turkish high command have been in this business long enough, they know what they are doing.. It could not have been rational to assume all PKK members in the area would be cleaned, as it is well known that PKK runs South like rabbits when pressed.

This is as humane as Turkia will get towards terrorists. With the physical experience and the full geographical knowledge of the area Army gained in this operation, North Iraq is now far from being a safe heaven for PKK. PKK must also have realised by now that Peshmerge were too smart to back PKK against the Turkish Army.

Despite harsh weather conditions, most PKK bases necessary for survival of KANDIL are destroyed. Next ball may well be in Kandil, when it gets warmer... We shall see what surprises summer holds for PKK.

If I were PKK, I would be smarter than to believe my problems are over. Military excursions are not the only signals Turkia is currently giving out, and summer is only three months away. Peaceful options are possible - but never if PKK terrorism continues..

PKK terrorism will be eradicated, no matter what it takes. Peace may only then prevail.

26.       MrX67
2540 posts
 01 Mar 2008 Sat 03:52 pm

Quoting catwoman:

Turkey just embarrassed itself and only showed those terrorists that the country is powerless against them.

our country gave to message all world in a true way,and in the limits of self determination right,so thats really important to read true way of this move...

27.       CANLI
5084 posts
 01 Mar 2008 Sat 06:49 pm

Quoting catwoman:

Turkey just embarrassed itself and only showed those terrorists that the country is powerless against them.


Actually,its the other way arround !
From what i understand Türkiye has given a massage
''Be aware we can get in and get out when ever we want its like a picnic to us,so BETTER BE AWARE !''

28.       catwoman
8933 posts
 01 Mar 2008 Sat 08:39 pm

Quoting CANLI:

Actually,its the other way arround !
From what i understand Türkiye has given a massage
''Be aware we can get in and get out when ever we want its like a picnic to us,so BETTER BE AWARE !''


We can get in any time and accomplish nothing. BE AWARE, we can bark!!! lol

29.       CANLI
5084 posts
 01 Mar 2008 Sat 09:47 pm

Quoting catwoman:


We can get in any time and accomplish nothing. BE AWARE, we can bark!!! lol



Well,i dont know what do you mean by the term 'accomplish nothing'?!
İ mean,the way i see it,when a country across the borders to another country,that İS something BİG
And when a country says,we will do what we see it suitable to protect our borders ourselves,and wont be waiting for you to take over,and acually do it,that is also something BİG
And when saying NO,we wont be part of the game,and if you didnt protect our borders,we will do it ourselves,and just watch us.
That was a massage to many parts also.

So,actually i dont understand what did you expect them to ACCOMPLİSH more form such operation,which they said it wont be big one
Would they be accomplish something if they used that heavy bomb which use to destroye the mountains and kill the goods along with the bads?!
Would they be very brave if their hands were full of blood ?!
Note that they dont actually deal with an organized army,they deal with people who hide in mountains,and in villages too
Would they be such heros if they destroyed those villages to kill the bad guys ?!
Would they be ACCOMPLİSH something then and not bark ?!

Actually,im curious,what in your opinion they should do,so they ACCOMPLİSH something and not just bark ?!

30.       SuiGeneris
3922 posts
 01 Mar 2008 Sat 10:26 pm

Quoting catwoman:

Sui, that's what I think. Why do you disagree? What is your conclusion from this conflict?



you should agree on disagreement dear here... because you just watch the occasions through tv or newspaper or internet... but we LIVE it here... i did for 2 years at its hot place... That was the first thing...

Secondly, its you who always come up with conclusions with one statements... so thats simple occurs misunderstandings... dont worry i am silent and we are talking, discussing...

so i am waiting for your cause&effect essay about what you think

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