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Turkish 'Pink İstanbul' Gay party at Paradiso Amsterdam
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1.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 30 Mar 2008 Sun 09:09 pm

Yesterday, Club Pera, organized the first (!!) Turkish gay and lesbian party in Amsterdam nightclub Paradiso. It's not that long ago that in Turkey, homosexuals were doomed to lead their life in secrecy. But nowadays, Istanbul is a hip and ultramodern city, without having lost its traditions. Istanbul is a great city to party for gays, lesbians and straight people. And that is exactly the thought behind the Pink Istanbul-party.

I thought it is a huge breakthrough in the Turkish gay scene. The party stressed the connection between Amsterdam and Istanbul, and besides partying, there has been place for serious matters as well:

Before the nightprogramme, there has been a debate with Turkish-Dutch politicians and homo-activists from both Istanbul and Amsterdam. Subjects as 'Is İstanbul the youngest gay-city of Europe?' and 'How is homosexual-tolerance in İstanbul, in comparison with Amsterdam?' have been discussed.

In the nightprogramme, there have been performances of Arkin Allen (Mercan Dede), Onur Özer, When Harry met Sally, DJ Sertan, DJ Ipek a.o. DJs were accompanied by dance-groups from Amsterdam and Istanbul, and there was a lounge with the theme 'From nargile to oil-wrestling in the hamam'.

The event was supported by COC Amsterdam en Nederland, UNK and GAY.EU

- I wish I had been able to go there, as the doors were open for everybody.



Source: (what I typed is merely translation of the Dutch webpage below)
http://www.clubpera.nl/pinkistanbul

2.       catwoman
8933 posts
 31 Mar 2008 Mon 12:40 am

Wow, this is really fantastic! I'm curious whether there were any negative comments from the Turkish/religious community in Holland or any violence... Really, great news and sounds like a great event!

3.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 31 Mar 2008 Mon 01:35 am

Quoting catwoman:

Wow, this is really fantastic! I'm curious whether there were any negative comments from the Turkish/religious community in Holland or any violence... Really, great news and sounds like a great event!



I haven't heard of any yet.. Will ask my Turkish friends at uni if they have heard something.

I totally LOVE gaybars in the Netherlands. I hate the fact that (in general) homosexuals are more sensual to each other in nightlife (you can see a huge difference in 'physical contact' in a straight club and a gay club), but apart from that, everybody is friends with everybody and they play the best music

4.       teaschip
3870 posts
 31 Mar 2008 Mon 08:48 pm

I thought there were no gays in Turkey. I wonder if they can still fight in the Turkish Military if they are homosexual..

5.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 31 Mar 2008 Mon 09:04 pm

I am just curious....why do they play better music at gay clubs than at straight clubs?

In any case, the first time I went to Istanbul...I thought everyone was gay. I saw many men walking around arm in arm. I said to my husband, "Wow, I didn't think Turkey was so progressive about homosexuals!" He looked at me like I had two heads and asked me what I meant. I told him, "all the men are walking arm in arm". HAHAHA...he got very angry with me and told me, "they are NOT GAY. Many men do that in my culture...it is normal!" The level of his anger told me that gays still must have it pretty difficult in Turkey, although I think it may be getting better.

6.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 31 Mar 2008 Mon 09:07 pm

Quoting Elisabeth:

I am just curious....why do they play better music at gay clubs than at straight clubs?



This is just my personal opinion Els, judging from the clubs I have been to

The gay clubs played all these golden oldies and loads of 60-70-90's. Whereas in the other clubs I go to, they usually play top40, hiphop and trance-dance.



And I had the same reaction when seeing men walk arm in arm, or kissing each other when they see each other again. In Holland not even all women do it all the time!

7.       geniuda
1070 posts
 31 Mar 2008 Mon 10:29 pm

Quoting Elisabeth:


In any case, the first time I went to Istanbul...I thought everyone was gay. I saw many men walking around arm in arm. ……. "all the men are walking arm in arm


The same happened to me in Istanbul lol lol even pictures I saw from friends, men posing arm in arm .It was a little surprising at first, but then I realized it was something normal for them .…..Well I must say.. me not used to see this here in America
Too many MACHOS here! lol

8.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 31 Mar 2008 Mon 10:37 pm

I am so glad other people saw this too. American men would rather walk on fire than touch eachother. I still find it a little funny when I see it. But the same goes for a few other Turkish traditions. I remember being offered someone elses slippers when I entered their home. I knew I had to take my shoes off but I have to say....I can't handle wearing someone elses shoes! I find it very strange...oh, and kissing someones hand...only if they wash first!! hahaha...What can I say..I am a germophobe!

9.       catwoman
8933 posts
 31 Mar 2008 Mon 10:42 pm

Quoting teaschip1:

I thought there were no gays in Turkey. I wonder if they can still fight in the Turkish Military if they are homosexual..


No gays in Turkey!
I think that in Turkey, you are free of military duty if you are gay... :-S

10.       janissary
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 31 Mar 2008 Mon 11:05 pm

Thanks for illuminating us everyday we learn many things from Turkish class.

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