Here is a new topic...friendship.
According to some philosophers, there is no real friendship, but there is only false friendship in the world...
And nothing lasts forever unfortunately?
What do you think about western and eastern friendship?

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I know looking for old threads here is hard, when you go to, say, off-topic, click on View all and then press Ctrl and F on your keyboard. In a box that opens, type in the key word (e.g. friendship) and you'll find old threads about the same topic

Thanks Daydreamer, great tip. I had no idea you could do this.

Thank you Daydreamer, Bliss, Sht99, Lady in red, Girleegirl, Pizza...

Daydreamer, you are a gem..
Thank you very much.

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A simple friend identifies himself when he calls.
A real friend doesn't have to.

A simple friend opens a conversation with a full news bulletin on his life.
A real friend says, "What's new with you?"
A simple friend thinks the problems you whine about are recent.
A real friend says, "You've been whining about the same thing for 14 years. Get off your duff and do something about it."
A simple friend has never seen you cry.
A real friend has shoulders soggy from your tears.
A simple friend doesn't know your parents' first names.
A real friend has their phone numbers in his address book.
A simple friend brings a bottle of wine to your party.
A real friend comes early to help you cook and stays late to help you clean.

A simple friend hates it when you call after he has gone to bed.
A real friend asks you why you took so long to call.
A simple friend seeks to talk with you about your problems.
A real friend seeks to help you with your problems.
A simple friend wonders about your romantic history.
A real friend could blackmail you with it.
A simple friend, when visiting, acts like a guest.
A real friend opens your refrigerator and helps himself.
A simple friend thinks the friendship is over when you have an argument.
A real friend knows that it's not a friendship until after you've had a fight.
A simple friend expects you to always be there for them.
A real friend expects to always be there for you!

friendship...
many things can be said and were said. and will be said.
several times i discuss my friendship abilities.
i understand to talk about friendship like this:

look at a friendship between a human and a dog. between two different species of animals. when we will understand it's basics we will understand friendship. different species do not communicate in the same way at the level of language - one barks - on talks - one sings - one emit ultrasounds. yet there is something connecting them in a friendship. there are basic attitudes. were i to name them, they might be understood differently. reciprocity? what is that? how? when? words have lost their meaning. observing understanding have not. what is friendship? a swimmer playing with a dolphin. the pope forgiving the man that attempted on his life. a dog playing with a hedgehog. adult playing with child.

maybe we go to bed easier thinking on simple or true friends. how many times did we how many times did the friend helped. what was said and who said it when the phone rang. maybe this is the way to understand friendship. but there can be more than this, to understand friendship with our being.

FROM A FRIEND


"Everything is made of light"
"Everything is God"
"The real us is pure love, pure light"
"Attention is the ability we have to discriminate and to focus only on that which we want to perceive."
"The only way to store information is by agreement"


"The belief system is like a Book of Law that rules our mind"
"Our biggest fear is taking the risk to be alive"
"Humans punish themselves endlessly for not being what they believe they should be."
"We have the need to be accepted and to be loved by others, but we cannot accept and love ourselves."
"Your word is the power that you have to create"


"A sin is anything you do which goes against yourself"
"You go against yourself when yo judge or blame yourself for anything"
"When you are impeccable, you take responsibilty for your actions, but you do not judge or blame yourself."
"Your opinon is nothing but your point of view"
"Personal importance, or taking things personally, is the maximum expression of selfishness because we make the assumption that everthing is about me."


"Nothing other people do is because of you. It is because of themselves"
"The whole world can gossip about you, and if you don't take it personally you are immune."
"You can choose to follow your heart always"
"The problem with making assumptions is that we believe they are the truth"
"We only se what we want to see and hear what we want to hear"


"We make the assumption that everyone sees life the way we do"
"Real love is accepting other people the way they are without trying to change them"
"Doing your best is taking the action because you love it, not because you're expecting a reward"
"If we like what we do, if we always do our best, then we are really enjoying life. We are having fun, we don't get borded, we don't have frustrations."
"When you do your best you learn to accept yourself"

"Everything is made of light"
"Everything is God"
"The real us is pure love, pure light"
"Attention is the ability we have to discriminate and to focus only on that which we want to perceive."
"The only way to store information is by agreement"


"The belief system is like a Book of Law that rules our mind"
"Our biggest fear is taking the risk to be alive"
"Humans punish themselves endlessly for not being what they believe they should be."
"We have the need to be accepted and to be loved by others, but we cannot accept and love ourselves."
"Your word is the power that you have to create"


"A sin is anything you do which goes against yourself"
"You go against yourself when yo judge or blame yourself for anything"
"When you are impeccable, you take responsibilty for your actions, but you do not judge or blame yourself."
"Your opinon is nothing but your point of view"
"Personal importance, or taking things personally, is the maximum expression of selfishness because we make the assumption that everthing is about me."


"Nothing other people do is because of you. It is because of themselves"
"The whole world can gossip about you, and if you don't take it personally you are immune."
"You can choose to follow your heart always"
"The problem with making assumptions is that we believe they are the truth"
"We only se what we want to see and hear what we want to hear"


"We make the assumption that everyone sees life the way we do"
"Real love is accepting other people the way they are without trying to change them"
"Doing your best is taking the action because you love it, not because you're expecting a reward"
"If we like what we do, if we always do our best, then we are really enjoying life. We are having fun, we don't get borded, we don't have frustrations."
"When you do your best you learn to accept yourself"


"Your own body is a manifestation of God, and if you honor your body everything will change for you"
"Your life is the manifestation of your dream; it is an art. You can change your life anytime if you aren't enjoying the dream."
"Our brain is the factory of the emotions"
"We are addicted to being the way we are"
"Forgiveness is the only way to heal"


"The truth is like a scalpel. The truth is painful"
"The dream you are living is your creation. It is your perception of reality that you can change at any time"
"Only love has the ability to put you in that state of bliss"
"The only reason you suffer is because you choose to suffer"
The only reason you are happy is because you choose to be happy. Happiness is a choice, and so is suffering"

FROM A FRIEND