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Human Rights Watch/saudi arabia/sheria/male domination
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1.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 21 Apr 2008 Mon 10:22 pm

-For female students behind a locked door that will remain that way until male guardians come to collect them.

-In a female-run business, everyone must vacate the premises so a delivery man can drop off a package. In Jeddah,

-A 40-year-old divorced woman cannot board a plane without the written permission of her 23-year-old son.

-A female doctor cannot leave the house at all as her male driver fails to turn up for work.

-Saudi courts require a mu'arif (a male to identify her under the full face veil) before a woman can even attempt to testify.

-Women make up only 4 per cent of the workforce.


http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/saudi-women-appeal-for-legal-freedoms-812657.html

2.       libralady
5152 posts
 21 Apr 2008 Mon 11:28 pm

Well I never, I saw these two women in Debenhams in Oxford Street today!

3.       catwoman
8933 posts
 22 Apr 2008 Tue 01:17 am

Quoting libralady:

Well I never, I saw these two women in Debenhams in Oxford Street today!


the husband/son/guardian must have been in good mood and let the girls play a little...

4.       KeithL
1455 posts
 22 Apr 2008 Tue 01:27 am

I hate all this. Thats why we don't want shia law in Turkey.

5.       catwoman
8933 posts
 22 Apr 2008 Tue 01:34 am

What's really scary is that very few Muslims will condemn this... Very few will say "there's something wrong with my religion", so they just sit back and don't care (oh, and let's not forget that they will also get very angry when someone criticizes them/their religion)... :-S

6.       CANLI
5084 posts
 22 Apr 2008 Tue 02:00 am

Quoting KeithL:

I hate all this. Thats why we don't want shia law in Turkey.


But its not sharia law....its male domination hidden in religion !

7.       catwoman
8933 posts
 22 Apr 2008 Tue 02:02 am

Quoting CANLI:

Quoting KeithL:

I hate all this. Thats why we don't want shia law in Turkey.


But its not sharia law....its male domination hidden in religion !


but sharia IS male domination.. :-S

8.       CANLI
5084 posts
 22 Apr 2008 Tue 02:10 am

Quoting catwoman:

What's really scary is that very few Muslims will condemn this... Very few will say "there's something wrong with my religion", so they just sit back and don't care



Well actually,no one will say ''there is something wrong with my religion ''
Who feels this,gladly can pick another one ''religion'' which will suit him or her better!

But of course we condemn many irrelevant actions which take place by the name of religions.
Many people of my country work there in Saudi arabia,and not many women can live there,they let their husbands work and come back ,just visiting them occasionally only
We are Muslims too,and even if we dont apply Sharia law,but we follow our religions rules,and we dont have such stiuation here.
So its not a matter of religion as it is a matter of the men who apply and hide behind it,and women's stiuations in the society who cant fight it back!

9.       CANLI
5084 posts
 22 Apr 2008 Tue 02:24 am

Look at those pictures above...
Who said that is in İslam ?!
Who said İslam ordered women to cover their faces like this ?!!!
They say its Sharia ? but its not even in İslam !
İ dont mind if women wear like this if they want,we have some women wearing like this here,not all wear in black tho,coloured..but they want to wear...thats fine by me
İn Saudi Arabia,they are forced !
İslam didnt say to force anything upon anyone.
Even hijab is order from ALLAH..but no one can force it also,its something between person and ALLAH
Woman want to obay and wear..then fine
She doesnt want...then its her responsibility infront of ALLAH
ALLAH said that,everyone is responsible of his,her actions regarding to personal choices
So its not in Sharia also to force.

We have our İmamlar...who have studied sharia of course,and they said,
The point in Hijab that women cover her body,so for a working woman civil engineer for example,is wearing dress like this better or putting on trousers for example jeans?
Our imamlar let it to the women choice,so no one can say the only uniform women can wear is just a wide dress!
As long as the point of Hijab is valid,she is covering her body still,she can wear whatever she like,beside after all its women's responsibilities infront of ALLAH,she will be asked about it,no anyone else

So,what is the point in forcing some uniform upon women if not to control them by the name of Sharia

10.       libralady
5152 posts
 22 Apr 2008 Tue 02:07 pm

Quoting catwoman:

Quoting libralady:

Well I never, I saw these two women in Debenhams in Oxford Street today!


the husband/son/guardian must have been in good mood and let the girls play a little...



You are right, they weren't alone! A stern faced man lead them..............

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