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20.       KemAle
105 posts
 02 May 2008 Fri 12:11 am

As i read some posts before, this a very odd question, and i think i would have to write a book to answer it!... Western women are what we choose to be, we can study and persue a career or we can choose to have a family and stay home, we can even choose to do both... we can be religious if we want, if we don't want, we are not... we can have as many friends as we like regarding gender, and as i read before that doesn't mean we will have sex with them... we can be economic sufficient and sometimes make more money than men, if we want... Western women are not the same all... we all are different and we will live our lives as we choose to... so there's no pattern that makes our behaviours... we are more free to choose what we want in life... definitely all of us are different from one another...

21.       catwoman
8933 posts
 02 May 2008 Fri 12:20 am

I think the main difference is that western women seem to be more confident, less obedient and more feminist (even if they are scared shitless of labeling themselves as feminist) then "eastern" women. Most of them at least.

22.       bydand
755 posts
 02 May 2008 Fri 11:28 am

Quoting catwoman:

I think the main difference is that western women seem to be more confident, less obedient and more feminist (even if they are scared shitless of labeling themselves as feminist) then "eastern" women. Most of them at least.



More confident, less obedient.....Paris Hilton springs to mind

23.       magnadea
0 posts
 02 May 2008 Fri 11:33 am

Quoting bydand:

Quoting catwoman:

I think the main difference is that western women seem to be more confident, less obedient and more feminist (even if they are scared shitless of labeling themselves as feminist) then "eastern" women. Most of them at least.



More confident, less obedient.....Paris Hilton springs to mind



Yeah yeah .... and all western men are like Forest Gump!

24.       baklava
16 posts
 02 May 2008 Fri 02:06 pm

Quoting bydand:



More confident, less obedient.....Paris Hilton springs to mind



A WOMAN who was trafficked across the border from Pakistan with her son, 3, was handed to an Afghan who raped her, then beat the toddler to death as she watched.
He was jailed for 20 years for murder - but the woman, Rukhma, was jailed, too.

She had put up with her mistreatment for three months before going to authorities.

But in December, Rukhma, who doesn't know her age but looks younger than 20, was given a four-year sentence for adultery and "escaping her house" in Pakistan.

The Taliban's fall six years ago heralded new rights for women: to go to school or get a job.

Their rights are now enshrined in the constitution.

But except for a small urban elite, a woman fleeing domestic violence or accusing a man of rape herself often ends up seen as the guilty party.

"Why am I here? I'm innocent," Rukhma said, crying in a musty cell and cradling a baby daughter she bore in jail.

"It is cruel to have your son killed before your eyes and then to be imprisoned."

In parts of Afghanistan and Pakistan, a woman who runs away is typically suspected of having taken a lover and can be prosecuted for adultery.

Leaving home without family permission may be deemed an offence.

The chief prosecutor of eastern Nangarhar province, who oversaw Rukhma's case, suggested she got off lightly.

"If my wife goes to the bazaar without my permission, I will kill her. This is our culture," Abdul Qayum shouted scornfully.

His colleagues laughed approvingly. "This is Afghanistan, not America," Mr Qayum said.

Kamala Janakiram, a UN human rights officer, said that in 70 to 80 per cent of cases she has seen, a woman complaining of domestic violence is charged as a criminal.

The UN Office on Drugs and Crime said many victims are forced to marry attackers or jailed for adultery, as proving rape is virtually impossible.

Women can end up in prison simply on the basis of gossip, said Manizha Naderi, director of Women for Afghan Women.

Fear of returning to a violent spouse drives some women to suicide.

Rukhma is still hoping an appeal will free her.

Prosecutor Qayum in unrepentant: "She spent several nights with the man. She committed adultery. It was rape, but the woman is also guilty."

25.       catwoman
8933 posts
 02 May 2008 Fri 04:40 pm

Quoting bydand:

Quoting catwoman:

I think the main difference is that western women seem to be more confident, less obedient and more feminist (even if they are scared shitless of labeling themselves as feminist) then "eastern" women. Most of them at least.



More confident, less obedient.....Paris Hilton springs to mind


Possibly, this is all you know or are interested in. Thank you for reminding me to add the comment that western men are not any less fucked up then eastern men!!! Patriarchy is certainly very well preserved here.

26.       KemAle
105 posts
 02 May 2008 Fri 07:10 pm

Quoting catwoman:

Quoting bydand:

Quoting catwoman:

I think the main difference is that western women seem to be more confident, less obedient and more feminist (even if they are scared shitless of labeling themselves as feminist) then "eastern" women. Most of them at least.



More confident, less obedient.....Paris Hilton springs to mind


Possibly, this is all you know or are interested in. Thank you for reminding me to add the comment that western men are not any less fucked up then eastern men!!! Patriarchy is certainly very well preserved here.



excellent comment cat, men all over the world are as we say in latin america "cut with the same pair of siccsors" they all have the same in their heads .... and yes i call myself a feminist, i love having all my rights and doing what i want, and that doesn't mean i'm "Paris Hilton type-of-girl"... i just happen to have a life that God gave me, and the fact that i'm a girl won't change the way i have to live it...so that means i'm more confident (too much i have to say) and less obedient (yeah, i only obey to myself hehe)... ...

27.       catwoman
8933 posts
 02 May 2008 Fri 07:14 pm

Quoting KemAle:

excellent comment cat, men all over the world are as we say in latin america "cut with the same pair of siccsors" they all have the same in their heads .... and yes i call myself a feminist, i love having all my rights and doing what i want, and that doesn't mean i'm "Paris Hilton type-of-girl"... i just happen to have a life that God gave me, and the fact that i'm a girl won't change the way i have to live it...so that means i'm more confident (too much i have to say) and less obedient (yeah, i only obey to myself hehe)... ...


My type of girl!!!
Kudos to you canim!

28.       geniuda
1070 posts
 02 May 2008 Fri 08:05 pm

Quoting KemAle:

men all over the world are as we say in latin america "cut with the same pair of siccsors" they all have the same in their heads .... ...


funny, but I think most of us, Latin American women, have said this phrase "men are cut with the same pair of scissors"... at least once in our lives lol

29.       KemAle
105 posts
 02 May 2008 Fri 09:16 pm

Quote:


My type of girl!!!
Kudos to you canim!



çok teşekkürler cat!... women rule!!

30.       KemAle
105 posts
 02 May 2008 Fri 09:19 pm

Quoting geniuda:

Quoting KemAle:

men all over the world are as we say in latin america "cut with the same pair of siccsors" they all have the same in their heads .... ...


funny, but I think most of us, Latin American women, have said this phrase "men are cut with the same pair of scissors"... at least once in our lives lol



hahahah yes we all have said that, but tell me if is not true!...is a reality, crude, raw reality!... hehehe :-S

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