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How does a Turk dump a girl?
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05 Jul 2008 Sat 01:00 am |
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Quoting Deli_kizin: Is it lack of English from my part, or is there a difference between breaking up with smo and dumping smo? |
I think you can break up with someone after a mutual decision, but when you dump someone, it's you who lets him/her down. And it's a rude way to say to break up with.
Any confirmation from a native speaker???
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05 Jul 2008 Sat 01:17 am |
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Quoting mltm: Quoting Deli_kizin: Is it lack of English from my part, or is there a difference between breaking up with smo and dumping smo? |
I think you can break up with someone after a mutual decision, but when you dump someone, it's you who lets him/her down. And it's a rude way to say to break up with.
Any confirmation from a native speaker??? |
DK and Meltem far be it for me to comment on these matters but I think "dumping" in the modern parlance is more of a one way thing where as breaking up is more of a mutual decision. 
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05 Jul 2008 Sat 01:28 am |
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Quoting mltm: Quoting Deli_kizin: Is it lack of English from my part, or is there a difference between breaking up with smo and dumping smo? |
I think you can break up with someone after a mutual decision, but when you dump someone, it's you who lets him/her down. And it's a rude way to say to break up with.
Any confirmation from a native speaker??? |
MLTM, I agree with your observation regarding has "dump someone" is used based on how I have heard it used in life songs and movies.
I am not a linquist, but I don't think the phrase "dumping somebody" mean ending a Romance was used in English before about World War II. But the real definition of "dump" is firstly that it is transitive verb. Someone or thing realizes or drops someone or thing. For example "Dump the garbage in the can". As an noun a "Dump" or "Dump Site" is a place where garbage or trash is left.
So all the above gives a negative unfriendly connotation when "dump" is used to describe ending relationship.
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05 Jul 2008 Sat 01:28 am |
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[Somehow my previous reply double posted, so I am replacing it with an added comment]
I hope things work out for Emilye. But I think that whenever two people in relation don't speak the same language, each party can have very different expectations.
(Its hard enough when they do speak the same language).
Anyhow keep those translation requests coming!
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05 Jul 2008 Sat 11:30 am |
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Quoting mltm: I think you can break up with someone after a mutual decision, but when you dump someone, it's you who lets him/her down. And it's a rude way to say to break up with.
Any confirmation from a native speaker??? |
Yes that is exactly what I think. But I do think you can break up 'on your own'  It doesn't necessarily have to be a mutual decision I think. But dumping sounds to me more like 'getting rid of'. Hmmm hope i never find out what either really means 
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05 Jul 2008 Sat 01:07 pm |
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Quoting longinotti1: Quoting mltm: Quoting Deli_kizin: Is it lack of English from my part, or is there a difference between breaking up with smo and dumping smo? |
I think you can break up with someone after a mutual decision, but when you dump someone, it's you who lets him/her down. And it's a rude way to say to break up with.
Any confirmation from a native speaker??? |
MLTM, I agree with your observation regarding has "dump someone" is used based on how I have heard it used in life songs and movies.
I am not a linquist, but I don't think the phrase "dumping somebody" mean ending a Romance was used in English before about World War II. But the real definition of "dump" is firstly that it is transitive verb. Someone or thing realizes or drops someone or thing. For example "Dump the garbage in the can". As an noun a "Dump" or "Dump Site" is a place where garbage or trash is left.
So all the above gives a negative unfriendly connotation when "dump" is used to describe ending relationship. |
Personally, if "dumping" comes in to it there never was a "romantic" relationship (from the dumpers side anyway) !!! I would say that if a relationships ends because of being "dumped" then it was probaly more about sex than anything else!  Bit of an immature, selfish method though for adults rather than rude  Sort of thing you expect from teenagers.
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06 Jul 2008 Sun 08:17 pm |
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Living 3 years in an English speaking country, for me dumping and breaking up are similar words, but dumping is more like a street language; breaking up would be more formal.
For my experience, I've never heard any other man from other nationality treating an "ex" or "future to be ex" so bad for no reason. I do believe you are responsible for what you tammed, but they dont think like that and they tell me it s like this in Turkey....
I ve just asked to make sure if they are generalizing or they are justifying their bad behavior.
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06 Jul 2008 Sun 09:48 pm |
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Quoting emilye: Out of curious, how does a Dudu dump a girl? |
He sends her a text in Turkish that she does not understand
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07 Jul 2008 Mon 06:42 pm |
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Emilye I'm sensing your getting ready to be dumped, why would you ask this question being a female? The term dumped usually indicates the other person did not want to end the relationship and feels rejected.  Saying you broke up, again indicates a mutual decision. At least on the surface that is. It just sounds better to explain to people "we broke up" instead of saying the truth which might be you were actually dumped therefore being the dumpee instead of the dumper. It's all about truth or denial from within. He broke up with me..he dumped me. We broke up..I broke up with him and the list goes on.
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07 Jul 2008 Mon 07:15 pm |
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Hi, I asked cause I put myself in somebody else's fight - what I shouldnt have done.
But i am a girl, I saw the situation and I couldnt hold myself.
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07 Jul 2008 Mon 10:32 pm |
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Being dumped and someone breaking up with you mean exactly the same thing
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