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Qu´ranschool collapsed in Balcilar
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1.       Trudy
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 01 Aug 2008 Fri 11:52 am

At least 14 girls aged 8-16 died and 27 were injured when Fridaymorning a part of a qu´ranschool in a village in Central Turkey collapsed. From under the broken stones cries for help were heard and rescue workers are trying to reach six girls who are still under the wreckage.

The explosion happened at 04.15AM, when pupils were at sleep. The mayor of the village says that a leaking gas bottle the cause of the collapse of the two storey high building is. Press agency Anatolia said it was gas from some installation. At this school, in the village of Balcilar nearby Taskent in the Toros mountain area, are special summer classes.

In the collapsed dorms were at the time of the explosion about 40 girls. One of the survivors said she went out of bed to wash herself for early motning prayer when she and some teachers heard strange noices from inside the kitchen. The teachers send her back to her dorm and after the explosion the building partly collapsed. She was in the part that did not.

Source: Dutch news site nieuws.nl

2.       lady in red
2908 posts
 01 Aug 2008 Fri 12:05 pm

Quoting Trudy:

At least 14 girls aged 8-16 died and 27 were injured when Fridaymorning a part of a qu´ranschool in a village in Central Turkey collapsed. From under the broken stones cries for help were heard and rescue workers are trying to reach six girls who are still under the wreckage.

The explosion happened at 04.15AM, when pupils were at sleep. The mayor of the village says that a leaking gas bottle the cause of the collapse of the two storey high building is. Press agency Anatolia said it was gas from some installation. At this school, in the village of Balcilar nearby Taskent in the Toros mountain area, are special summer classes.

In the collapsed dorms were at the time of the explosion about 40 girls. One of the survivors said she went out of bed to wash herself for early motning prayer when she and some teachers heard strange noices from inside the kitchen. The teachers send her back to her dorm and after the explosion the building partly collapsed. She was in the part that did not.

Source: Dutch news site nieuws.nl



I saw this on the news this morning - very, very sad indeed. And the girls were so young.

3.       Roswitha
3693 posts
 01 Aug 2008 Fri 12:26 pm

I read this this morning too.

4.       Trudy
4511 posts
 02 Aug 2008 Sat 11:11 am

Quoting Roswitha:

I read this this morning too.



And?

5.       catwoman
6823 posts
 02 Aug 2008 Sat 01:20 pm


Quoting Trudy:

Quoting Roswitha:

I read this this morning too.



And?

6.       thehandsom
3474 posts
 03 Aug 2008 Sun 04:35 pm

Although I did not want to write anything when i read this post and the news in Turkish papers.
But I think I dont think this incident should be known as a simple accident and 18 young girls died as a result.
This incident is annoying and it makes my blood boil.
A building, quite far away from the city; The place was run as a Quran Course as well as a hostel (or a summer camp?) for girls by a ´sneaky´ sect; they have no permission for the course; they have no permission to use it as hostel;parents left those young girls there so they can be learning Quran.
Who will you be accusing there?
-The sect which finances and runs these courses?
-The parents who left their young daughters in that primitive environment for quran course and so that they would grow into morally acceptable girls. (None of the parents launched a complain about the incident..They all said that "it is the god´s order")
-The local authorities which knew what was going on but let it run
-The government which created a kind environment, so that these places can run so easily.

I dont want to swear but they all deserve swearing

7.       girleegirl
3076 posts
 03 Aug 2008 Sun 04:52 pm

Quoting thehandsom:


-The parents who left their young daughters in that primitive environment for quran course and so that they would grow into morally acceptable girls. (None of the parents launched a complain about the incident..They all said that "it is the god´s order")


I don’t even want to imagine what these parents must be going through but I have to say, if they can find peace in their grief by not laying blame and believing it is God’s will……..I think that is a blessing for them......and not something I would care to be judgemental of.

8.       Roswitha
3693 posts
 03 Aug 2008 Sun 04:58 pm

I know how you feel, thehandsom, first I thought the building collapsed because it was poorly constructed -- now I read
a gas leak from kitchen pipes caused a powerful explosion, leaving also at least 27 people injured. Gaspipe explosions can occur in any part of the world. This has nothing to do with religion.

http://www.arabia.msn.com/Channels/msnnews/article.aspx?CatID=2&ID=550237&S=Read

9.       mltm
3203 posts
 03 Aug 2008 Sun 06:18 pm

Quoting thehandsom:

-The parents who left their young daughters in that primitive environment for quran course and so that they would grow into morally acceptable girls. (None of the parents launched a complain about the incident..They all said that "it is the god´s order")



I don´t think that they all said that.
I read one of the fathers´ interview.
He is a father like a lot of fathers in Turkey. With a very low income, not having any real social help from the state, not having a stable job, only doing seasonal jobs, trying to survive and make his family survive all throughout the year with the money he got just in the seasonal job.
And a Quran school, a summer school, which is free, which offers free food and free accommodation to the girls for the whole summer. It is the same for the boys.

Most of the people become more religious as they have less financial income.

10.       Roswitha
3693 posts
 03 Aug 2008 Sun 10:24 pm

Meltem, if you want to see how the poor cling to their religious beliefs, than watch this Italian movie:

You will seldom encounter a film that depicts a people and a culture with greater authenticity and sensitivity. The Tree of Wooden Clogs was justly awarded the Palme d’Or at the 1978 Cannes Film Festival. This film is in Italian with English subtitles. The DVD extras include a theatrical trailer and photo gallery. Although this film has a running time of almost three hours (177 minutes), it is never boring and holds viewer interest throughout. I highly recommend it.

clinging to religion is based on a strong emotional need approaching desperation. It is in times of helplessness and trouble that people turn to God.

Nobody could express this need for religion in hard times better than Chekhov in his "Uncle Vanya".

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