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1.       AEnigmamagnadea
416 posts
 07 Aug 2008 Thu 01:27 pm

What is your view about the Olympics in Beijing?
Personally I will make my own silent protest by not watching a single part of it (especially the opening and closing ceremonies)

2.       libralady
5152 posts
 07 Aug 2008 Thu 02:24 pm

Sport should not be used as a platform for protest (by non-sports people) and I will watch as much as I can. The athletes work so hard for their shot at getting gold and they probably only get the one chance.

I abhore human rights abuses, and there are plenty in China,
(Falung Gong, Political prisioners, Laogi (forced prison labour) labour rights abuses, banned religion, banned freedom of speech, Tibet and Mongolian issues)

but it should not be aired at the Olympics. In my opinion, they should never been awarded the games in the first place, not as they did with priviso´s on improving their Human Rights.

And whats more, this makes me laugh, George Bush lecturing on Human Rights...................

3.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 07 Aug 2008 Thu 02:32 pm

Not many presidents or politicians are going to Beijing but Bush and Blair are. A tv commentator said that the issue of human rights comes secondary to US business issues He had a point.

I´m not going to watch the Olympics. Not because I want to show my protest but because I hate sports

4.       AEnigmamagnadea
416 posts
 07 Aug 2008 Thu 03:28 pm

Quoting libralady:

but it should not be aired at the Olympics. In my opinion, they should never been awarded the games in the first place, not as they did with priviso´s on improving their Human Rights.

And whats more, this makes me laugh, George Bush lecturing on Human Rights...................



I agree that sport and politics should not mix. However, the Chinese have spent billions (and for months have been consuming HALF the world´s steel in Beijing) as a PR exercise to highlight the wonders of China. The opening and closing ceremonies in particular are their chance to show off to the world.

I refuse to watch such propaganda.

PS Nobody has mentioned their record on animal rights - torture and ill treatment is a way of life.

5.       teaschip
3870 posts
 07 Aug 2008 Thu 04:15 pm

Quoting AEnigmamagnadea:

Quoting libralady:

but it should not be aired at the Olympics. In my opinion, they should never been awarded the games in the first place, not as they did with priviso´s on improving their Human Rights.

And whats more, this makes me laugh, George Bush lecturing on Human Rights...................



I agree that sport and politics should not mix. However, the Chinese have spent billions (and for months have been consuming HALF the world´s steel in Beijing) as a PR exercise to highlight the wonders of China. The opening and closing ceremonies in particular are their chance to show off to the world.

I refuse to watch such propaganda.

PS Nobody has mentioned their record on animal rights - torture and ill treatment is a way of life.



I did post an article here about the Chinese eliminating dog on their menu during the Olympics. Sounds like a few of our members here had a taste for dog meat.

6.       teaschip
3870 posts
 07 Aug 2008 Thu 04:36 pm

I also agree politics and sports should not mix. However, I would be lieing if I said I never bought anything made in China. So does that make me a supporter of human right abuses in China?

7.       AEnigmamagnadea
416 posts
 07 Aug 2008 Thu 05:14 pm

Quoting teaschip:

I also agree politics and sports should not mix. However, I would be lieing if I said I never bought anything made in China. So does that make me a supporter of human right abuses in China?



Not really - seeing as most of the money is made by your importers and often children have been making the goods you buy for a few pennies..... !!!!!

What do YOU think eh?

8.       teaschip
3870 posts
 07 Aug 2008 Thu 05:27 pm

Quoting AEnigmamagnadea:

Quoting teaschip:

I also agree politics and sports should not mix. However, I would be lieing if I said I never bought anything made in China. So does that make me a supporter of human right abuses in China?



Not really - seeing as most of the money is made by your importers and often children have been making the goods you buy for a few pennies..... !!!!!

What do YOU think eh?



Yes, but those pennies are also helping their economy and feeding their children.

9.       AEnigmamagnadea
416 posts
 07 Aug 2008 Thu 05:32 pm

Quoting teaschip:

Yes, but those pennies are also helping their economy and feeding their children.



Oh god! How Marie Antoinette can you get?!?! It doesn´t matter if they live in horrible conditions in factories and are paid a few pennies for a weeks work, compared to the millions being made by the rich, because you feel you are helping them!!!

10.       teaschip
3870 posts
 07 Aug 2008 Thu 05:43 pm

Quoting AEnigmamagnadea:

Quoting teaschip:

Yes, but those pennies are also helping their economy and feeding their children.



Oh god! How Marie Antoinette can you get?!?! It doesn´t matter if they live in horrible conditions in factories and are paid a few pennies for a weeks work, compared to the millions being made by the rich, because you feel you are helping them!!!



No, not at all. I didn´t say I supported their working or living conditions. But if we stopped our imports, I don´t see this as a resolution either for them.

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