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New mosque in Ankara makes faces frown
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10.       doudi94
845 posts
 22 Aug 2008 Fri 12:29 am

Yeah what is a VIP mosque anyway?? i thought the whole reason for mosques would be taht there would be no difference between ppl, the rich by the poor and the black by the white....etc,etc,

And 10 million!!!!!!!!!! WHY???? if wwe dont need it use the money for smthg else we dont have to ahve luxuries first and then necessities, necessties first!!!

 

11.       catwoman
8933 posts
 22 Aug 2008 Fri 02:15 am

 

Quoting doudi94

 we dont have to ahve luxuries first and then necessities, necessties first!!!

 

So wise!!!!

12.       doudi94
845 posts
 22 Aug 2008 Fri 02:21 am

 

Quoting catwoman

So wise!!!!

 

catwoman u embaress me soo much!! I feel like  such a mature grown up on this site!!!(excat oppisite of real life!!)im always the baby in the group heheh but i mostly say what i hear the ppl around me saying lol!!

13.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 22 Aug 2008 Fri 04:34 am

Germany’s New True Believers

Officials in Berlin want to mainstream the Muslims. Their method: taxpayer-funded Islamic education.

If Islam seems foreign to many Europeans, part of the reason is that it is. Unlike in America, where a prosperous Muslim diaspora has widely integrated and built its own local institutions, only rarely do Europe´s mosques or schools preach and teach in German, French or any other local language. All over Europe, countless Qur´an schools and cultural centers are financed by wealthy Saudi charities. Paris´s Grand Mosque and many others in France are backed by the government of Algeria. And in Germany, one third of its 2,500 mosques are run by Turkey. Sent to Germany for four-year tours, the imams are picked by Ankara´s Bureau of Religious Affairs, which also has a say in topics for Friday sermons.

URL: http://www.newsweek.com/id/128419

14.       Cacık
296 posts
 22 Aug 2008 Fri 03:18 pm

Thanks for the interesting post Ros.  I only wish the same integration and tolerance was forthcoming in other places around the world.

 

India: Bishops call for protection after priest´s murder

by Dibin Samuel - Christiantoday.com
Posted: Friday, August 22, 2008, 9:36 (BST)
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The murder of a Catholic priest in India has stirred believers in the country to call for greater protection from the government.

Father Thomas Pandipally, 38, was found brutally tortured and murdered on the roadside in the town of Yellareddy on August 17. The Kerala Catholic Bishops´ Council (KCBC) expressed "shock and anguish" and urged authorities to arrest the priest´s killers.

KCBC deputy secretary Father Stephen Alathara said it is "most unfortunate" that Christian missionaries are being targeted in the country, noting that Pandipally was the latest victim in a series of violent attacks on missionaries.

Pandippally, a member of the Carmelite of Mary Immaculate order, was found murdered with multiple head injuries and more than 30 stabbings.

According to a Catholic source, the priest was killed as he made his way back home after attending a service in Yellareddy in Nizamabad district.

Terribly shaken by the incident, Christian leaders in Andhra Pradesh expressed dismay over the murder, which they suspect is the handiwork of Hindu extremists opposing Christian missionary activities and changes to the education system in the state.

According to the Rev Father Alex Thannippara, a provincial superior of the CMI order, the state has seen a number of brutal and unexplained murders of Christian workers in the past eight years. In the last eight months alone, there were 27 serious attacks against Christians in the state.

Earlier in the year, a mob of 500 people led by Hindu extremists prevented the Hyderabad archbishop from blessing a new HIV/Aids care centre. Two years ago, the school where the slain priest worked was also targeted by extremists.

KCBC called on the federal and state governments to protect missionaries who work for the marginalised and poor in the country.

"The Church in India is shocked and deeply saddened by this barbarous killing, the result of a growing climate of intolerance and violence against Christians in this country," the Archbishop Marampudi Joji of Hyderabad said.

The Archbishop called Pandipally a martyr.

"He sacrificed his life for the poor and marginalised," Joji said, according to AsiaNews. "But he did not die in vain, because his body and his blood enrich the Church in India, particularly the Church in Andhra Pradesh – the southeastern state where he died."

Pandipally, from Kerala, was actively involved in education and social services. He joined the Chanda mission of the CMI in 1987 and was ordained as a priest in 2002.

The Andhra Pradesh Federation of Churches (AFPC) has strongly condemned Pandipally´s killing and demanded that violent communal groups be banned. The APFC said they would take up the case with the Chief Minister of AP and the State Minorities Commission.

15.       Trudy
7887 posts
 22 Aug 2008 Fri 03:22 pm

 

Quoting Cacık

Thanks for the interesting post Ros.  I only wish the same integration and tolerance was forthcoming in other places around the world.

 

 

I know that in my country tolerance is absolutely not perfect, but how about yours Çacık? I´ve heard many not so nice stories....

16.       catwoman
8933 posts
 22 Aug 2008 Fri 03:36 pm

 

Quoting Cacık

Thanks for the interesting post Ros.  I only wish the same integration and tolerance was forthcoming in other places around the world.

 

 

That is very true! Since we hear so much about intolerance against Muslims, why don´t we also hear something about the intolerance of Muslims?

17.       peacetrain
1905 posts
 22 Aug 2008 Fri 03:45 pm

Catwoman, I´m not sure I understand what your saying.

 

intolerance  of Muslims . . . do you mean people should be more tolerant towards Muslims or Muslims should be more  intolerant ?  I think I may have misunderstood what you are trying to say.

 

Sorry, if it´s plain to see but I´ve been busy on my first attempt at making dolmas and I´m suffering

 

 

18.       catwoman
8933 posts
 22 Aug 2008 Fri 03:47 pm

 

Quoting peacetrain

And, as in the case of cacik´s post, the intolerance of Hindus.

 

yes, absolutely.

19.       peacetrain
1905 posts
 22 Aug 2008 Fri 03:55 pm

 

Quoting catwoman

yes, absolutely.

 

 ha ha I wrote that then edited because I wasn´t sure if I had understood your comment.

20.       Cacık
296 posts
 22 Aug 2008 Fri 05:13 pm

 

Quoting Trudy

I know that in my country tolerance is absolutely not perfect, but how about yours Çacık? I´ve heard many not so nice stories....

 

 Hi Trudy

 

I am in Turkey.  I think everyone here know what has happened in Turkey to some non-believers in the past few years, murders, stabbings etc... 

 

On the whole, the general society around me, more Turkish people are more curious rather than agressive towards Christians, they seem to wish to ask many questions about Christianity.  I have not experienced any physical danger here, I feel quite safe although there have been times where one receives a bad eye, but you just ignore that.

 

On the otherhand, you don´t feel free to discuss another religion either but I guess that is not about the people, more due to the fact that I understand Muslims cannot question there faith. 

 

I think the majority of intolerance is born out of ignorance.

 

 

 

 

 

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