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For the Sake of Crucifix
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31 Aug 2008 Sun 11:13 pm |
There is no change in Armenian atrocities, Khojaly had proved this. Similar barbarously acts like in WW1 and nearly 80 yeras later. People are inclined to forget and manipulate, maybe one more 80 years later we will have a new Armenian genocide which will be ready to be voted in US congress claiming that Azeris killed Armenians in Khojaly.
"A. Lalayan, _Revolutsionniy Vostok (Revolutionary East)_ No: 2-3, Moscow, 1936. - One of the architects of the Armenian genocide of 2.5 million Muslim people
I killed Muslims by every means possible. Yet it is sometimes a pity to waste bullets for this. The best way is to gather all of these dogs and throw them into wells and then fill the wells with big and heavy stones, as I did. I gathered all of the women, men and children, "
For more.
http://www.cs.utah.edu/~kagano/ermeni.htm
btw thanks for reminding...
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01 Sep 2008 Mon 12:36 am |
I will call this thread and the support for it as ´brothers in arms´
I think it is better if you read abit more about the history before going into ´Armenians will never change´ type of arguments here..
Here it is a small translation from a columnist for you :
Title is :
No Armenians without Turks, no Turks without Armanians
We still have not named what happened to the Armenians 93 years ago. Only 4 Armenians were in the parliament during 85 years of republic. No Armenians have been seen in army or civil bureaucracy. We tried to make forget the names of Armenian locations, Armenian writers, artists, architects etc. We have converted their cultural heritage into mosques, schools, army barracks and sometimes into stables and sometimes we destroyed them. in 1942 with special tax, in 1955 with looting we did destroy all the Armenian businessmen. After 1974 we took everything from their foundations. In the end, we managed to reduce their population into 70.000. We filled all the books in schools with writing which showed how enemies Armenians are. We forced the Armenian students writing composition against the Armenians. We have seen ministers, intellects etc who used the terms like ´Armenian bastard´, ´Armenian seed´, ´unfortunately he is Armenian´. in 1930s and in 1980s we whitnessed them being threatened with the police files. We herd for the people who sent threatening letters to Armenian papers or to their religious leaders, were not punished. We have seen the people who killed the most compromising leader of Armenians from his behind in a treacherous way, were protected by the government departments. we have seen huge country Turkey with 70 million population dragged its feet so long for recognizing 3 million Armenia..
Then, can we make believe the entire world what Turks have done to Armenians in 1915 allegedly, from the way we treated this little group in our own soils? Forget the world, can we make ourselves believe? For me, the word ´genocide´ ......... It is necessary to suspect the level of development of a nation if they dont look at the others sufferings and if they dont try to understand the others...
The rest of the article is here for you: (in Turkish btw)
http://www.taraf.com.tr/yazar.asp?id=12
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01 Sep 2008 Mon 04:48 am |
I will call this thread and the support for it as ´brothers in arms´
I think it is better if you read abit more about the history before going into ´Armenians will never change´ type of arguments here..
Here it is a small translation from a columnist for you :
Title is :
No Armenians without Turks, no Turks without Armanians
We still have not named what happened to the Armenians 93 years ago. No Armenians have been seen in army or civil bureaucracy. We tried to make forget the names of Armenian locations, Armenian writers, artists, architects etc. We have converted their cultural heritage into mosques, schools, army barracks and sometimes into stables and sometimes we destroyed them. in 1942 with special tax, in 1955 with looting we did destroy all the Armenian businessmen. After 1974 we took everything from their foundations. In the end, we managed to reduce their population into 70.000. We filled all the books in schools with writing which showed how enemies Armenians are. We forced the Armenian students writing composition against the Armenians. We have seen ministers, intellects etc who used the terms like ´Armenian bastard´, ´Armenian seed´, ´unfortunately he is Armenian´. in 1930s and in 1980s we whitnessed them being threatened with the police files. We herd for the people who sent threatening letters to Armenian papers or to their religious leaders, were not punished. We have seen the people who killed the most compromising leader of Armenians from his behind in a treacherous way, were protected by the government departments. we have seen huge country Turkey with 70 million population dragged its feet so long for recognizing 3 million Armenia..
Then, can we make believe the entire world what Turks have done to Armenians in 1915 allegedly, from the way we treated this little group in our own soils? Forget the world, can we make ourselves believe? For me, the word ´genocide´ ......... It is necessary to suspect the level of development of a nation if they dont look at the others sufferings and if they dont try to understand the others...
The rest of the article is here for you: (in Turkish btw)
http://www.taraf.com.tr/yazar.asp?id=12
you took an excerpt from a crappy newspaper supported by Soros+AKP, but it`s very funny how they argue that "Only 4 Armenians were in the parliament during 85 years of republic".
Can you tell us how many Turks have been in the parliement of armenia since the country was established? Have you ever heard that 60% of the Yerevan population in the 1850`s was constituted by Turks? What happened to all these people if not they were all genocided? Did they just evaporize?
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01 Sep 2008 Mon 07:39 am |
Please, tamikadakika.
Unless you are a card-carrying member of the U.S. Republican Party, it is forbidden for you to use George Soros´ alleged support for a publication as a slur. They have established exclusive world-wide rights to this particular gratuitous insult.
Surely you can come up with a good Turkish-origin gratuitous insult to use instead.
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01 Sep 2008 Mon 01:10 pm |
you took an excerpt from a crappy newspaper supported by Soros+AKP, but it`s very funny how they argue that "Only 4 Armenians were in the parliament during 85 years of republic".
I was expecting a better answer than ´a crappy newspaper supported by Soros+AKP´ to be honest from you.
That type of defense ( ´ah they are supported by the foreign powers that want to divide us´ ), against any type of criticism is as old as my granny (and she is 94).
Please focus on the content in that article than sluring..
And I seriously oppose the idea that ´taraf is a crappy paper´
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01 Sep 2008 Mon 06:59 pm |
I was expecting a better answer than ´a crappy newspaper supported by Soros+AKP´ to be honest from you.
That type of defense ( ´ah they are supported by the foreign powers that want to divide us´ ), against any type of criticism is as old as my granny (and she is 94).
Please focus on the content in that article than sluring..
And I seriously oppose the idea that ´taraf is a crappy paper´
is it any worse than your labeling everyone against akp and eu "ergenekoncu"? Besides I already made a counter argument against the content in the article. Do you have any idea what happened to the Turks who lived in Armenia?
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04 Sep 2008 Thu 05:09 am |
President Abdullah Gul will on Saturday become the first Turkish head of state to visit Armenia, his office said, taking an important step to restart diplomatic relations between two neighboring countries.
Gul will go to Yerevan to attend a football match between the two countries, which do not have diplomatic relations
Armenia´s President Serge Sarkisian invited Gul last month to attend the qualifying match for the 2010 World Cup finals to mark "a new symbolic start in the countries´ relations". Turkish diplomats and security officials have been in Yerevan this week making final preparations.
"A visit around this match can create a new climate of friendship in the region," the Turkish presidency said in a statement posted on its website. "It is with this in mind that the president has accepted the invitation.http://www.hurriyet.com.tr/english/home/9816765.asp?rdr=1
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