To me, it is better to consider the meaning of these sentences, when it is said, and where it is said!

To gather the a society again, these should have been said after a very very heavy war! we talk about 1920s right?

Its their stupity to get that meaning and provake the people against other people with using this... That is also not true! but that doesnt again make it right to provake the other side...

I didnt read Caliptrix´ posts when I was writing mine, so when I looked back I came to the conclusion he is right, and therefore have deleted my own message, sorry for the inconvenience. Can we please go back to the topic? You can discuss these further ofcourse, but please open a seperate thread to share your thoughts.

Thank you.

 This is an oversimplification. It is true that surgery in Turkey, especially plastic surgery, is much cheaper than in the west of Europe. But it is not true that there arent many people who go for medical treatment to Turkey because of its quality. I am convinced that service and knowledge in good hospitals in Turkey (private foundations, or state unviersities in the big cities) are of a higher quality than the ones in the Netherlands.

I have read quite some articles about eye laser treatment in Turkey being further developed than in the rest of Europe, and treatment of ´smaller´ cases which include pains of muscles and recovery of bones is said to be better as well. This is no surprise: a doctor in Istanbul will have much more practice and experience than a doctor in Amsterdam is ever going to have. Experience ofcourse doesnt necessarily mean quality, but definitely medical treatment in Turkey is not of any less quality than in Europe (I wouldnt know about small hospitals though. but then again, last week two hospitals here were closed because their ORs werent hygenic)

One extremely important advantage of a hospital stay in Turkey is that the chances of contracting MRSA are probably close to nil! 

Since we came to live in Turkey my husband has had an operation and I have had some eye treatment - I can´t recommend our hospital highly enough!

 that is good.....worrying reports out today for uk

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1072617/One-300-NHS-patients-killed-blunders-Richard-Branson-warns-new-health-crusade.html

 although this may just be propeganda for branson to take over the nhs......ooooh i might get a red uniform instead

 Then you could all be Nurse Managers and attend lots of pointless meetings!!!

 heh heh we do that already

 Have moderators decided that going off topic is now not allowed?  If this is the case then why don´t they enforce it in other threads, or is it, as usual, a case of picking a rule from the tree when it suits them...

In addition, the question was about LIVING and pregnancy, so I would dispute the fact that we were off topic anyway!

Further, Caliptrix is a moderator in the language forums ONLY.  When Erdinc was mod in that section I well remember Catwoman informing him that he was not to moderate the discussion forums. 

why do these things always turn to political, racist issues, with people "disputing"

lol, first time i use that word

Because arguing about anything else isn´t very fun.

I KNOOW!!!

your soo right lol!!!