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70.       armegon
1872 posts
 29 Jan 2010 Fri 02:49 pm

i have just watched lovely bones & sherlock holmes, both are quite good, at least you dont get bored ...

71.       lemon
1374 posts
 29 Jan 2010 Fri 03:59 pm

Sunshine.

 

watched it, loved it. impressive. daniel boyle is good.

72.       barba_mama
1629 posts
 29 Jan 2010 Fri 06:52 pm

 

Quoting alameda

 

 

Beautiful music, fabulous photographs of horses and the desert...but that film, Lawrence of Arabia, is full of lies and deception.  I hate that film. That was one of the major campaigns that caused so many problems that persist today.  It is one of the most anti Turkish propaganda films around. 

 

Have you ever studied the history of the events portrayed in that film....The Arab Revolt...(against the Ottomans)?  The period is very well documented. Even Lawrence was disgusted by it when he realized how even he had been duped.

 

Actually it was a British aristocratic proimperialism spinster who did most the work for that program.  She laid the groundwork.  Her name is Gertrude Bell. It was Gertie who supplied the intellegence to Lawrence, told him where the oasis where, who would be friendly.....and even she was disgusted with the outcome.....she died of an overdose of sleeping pills.

 

 

I think the movie also clearly shows Lawrence´s disgust. I don´t know much about the history of the events, but I think the movie shows how in war it seems everybody is a loser, except for the people in the high places who lie and trick around. At the end of the movie Lawrence just went crazy, and the people closest to him (the Arabic people around him) saw this, tried to slow him down. The people giving him orders (English army generals) seemed to not care that much about his mental state.

Anyway, I didn´t watch the movie out of historical reasons Just a classic movie that is a must see. It did trigger my interest to read more on the real story.

I thought the part that the Turkish played in the movie wasn´t that big, apart for some torture scene. Other then that it was mostly extra´s... the vague enemy. Can´t say I think more positive or negative about the Ottomans/Turks after seeing this movie. Yes there was fighting... well, it was a war. You kill the others before they can kill you.



Edited (1/29/2010) by barba_mama

73.       lemon
1374 posts
 29 Jan 2010 Fri 07:09 pm

 

Quoting barba_mama

 

 

 Me too! It was on tv the other day, and I also liked the messages in the movie. How easy does a misunderstanding grows into something big...

 

At the moment I´m watching Lawrence of Arabia, and I´m enjoying it actually, even though it´s WAY old.

 

where did you notice any misunderstanding? what was the message for you in the movie?

74.       barba_mama
1629 posts
 29 Jan 2010 Fri 10:09 pm

Well, the misunderstaning at the mexican-american border for example... the misunderstanding on why the woman was shot... That´s where the title comes from

 

I think it shows us that we have to make sure that we really listen, and not be quick with our judgements.



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75.       lemon
1374 posts
 29 Jan 2010 Fri 10:59 pm

 

Quoting barba_mama

Well, the misunderstaning at the mexican-american border for example... the misunderstanding on why the woman was shot... That´s where the title comes from

 

I think it shows us that we have to make sure that we really listen, and not be quick with our judgements.

 

what was the misunderstanding at the border? what was wrong there? the officers were doing their routine check, why panic?

 

what was the misunderstanding of that woman being shot? if i were the police officer in morocco i would also be on alert, theres no joke about terrorism. i believe that is the routine police carries out in such countries. brutal. difficult for other option. their mentality.

76.       barba_mama
1629 posts
 29 Jan 2010 Fri 11:31 pm

I don´t want to spoil the movie for other people, but don´t you think they totally misunderstood the intentions of the nanny? Going after her like she was the criminal? The Mexican guy was drunk, and misunderstood the police´s suspicion for racism. The police misunderstood his drunken behaviour for some kind of criminal smuggling behaviour (because of the kids). After that, they misunderstood the nanny in the desert. She didn´t do anything wrong, just took the kids to a wedding. No weird kidnapping activities going on as the police thought.

And the police went hunting after owner of the gun, hitting people and stuff, while it was a stupid child´s mistake. You can argue if it was justified to do this, but if it was clear from the beginning what really happened, it would have ended much better.

...why do you think the movie was called Babel? I´m not making this up The whole point of the movie is miscommunication and its effects.



Edited (1/29/2010) by barba_mama

77.       lemon
1374 posts
 29 Jan 2010 Fri 11:43 pm

 

Quoting barba_mama

I don´t want to spoil the movie for other people, but don´t you think they totally misunderstood the intentions of the nanny? Going after her like she was the criminal? The Mexican guy was drunk, and misunderstood the police´s suspicion for racism. The police misunderstood his drunken behaviour for some kind of criminal smuggling behaviour (because of the kids). After that, they misunderstood the nanny in the desert. She didn´t do anything wrong, just took the kids to a wedding. No weird kidnapping activities going on as the police thought.

And the police went hunting after owner of the gun, hitting people and stuff, while it was a stupid child´s mistake. You can argue if it was justified to do this, but if it was clear from the beginning what really happened, it would have ended much better.

...why do you think the movie was called Babel? I´m not making this up The whole point of the movie is miscommunication and its effects.

 

ok. got your point. yeah, babling it is for its title.

 

but i would disagree with you in many many points.

 

watched this movie with friends. a striking thing was that everyone saw what they wanted to see. one person watched this film and told me, but he told a different story.

 

on basis of opinions i realized that people see what they want to see.

 

 

78.       barba_mama
1629 posts
 30 Jan 2010 Sat 11:27 am

not babling... Babel...as in the tower of Babel... no?

 

Ok, quick bible lesson The tower of Babel was build by humans to reach heaven, and this made God angry. At this point, all these people still spoke the same language. Then, God decided that he would let all the people speak different languages. This made building the tower impossible, since people started to misunderstand eachother, fight eachother, and the tower slowly crumbled down.

 

The story in the bible about Babel is all about misunderstanding and miscommunication. So, the movie Babel is all about...



Edited (1/30/2010) by barba_mama

79.       lemon
1374 posts
 30 Jan 2010 Sat 04:27 pm

 

Quoting barba_mama

not babling... Babel...as in the tower of Babel... no?

 

Ok, quick bible lesson The tower of Babel was build by humans to reach heaven, and this made God angry. At this point, all these people still spoke the same language. Then, God decided that he would let all the people speak different languages. This made building the tower impossible, since people started to misunderstand eachother, fight eachother, and the tower slowly crumbled down.

 

The story in the bible about Babel is all about misunderstanding and miscommunication. So, the movie Babel is all about...

 

thank you, i feel enlightened.

 

i just nicely associated babel with babling. nad thought it was genius. but of course nobody noticed that.

80.       barba_mama
1629 posts
 30 Jan 2010 Sat 06:02 pm

 

Quoting lemon

 

 

thank you, i feel enlightened.

 

i just nicely associated babel with babling. nad thought it was genius. but of course nobody noticed that.

 

lol, not really Perhaps it had something to do with the Dutch football player, Ryan Babel?

 

By the way, back on movies, I finally saw Avatar, liked it Watched The Hangover again yesterday, second time, still made me laugh. A must see! And going to see High Fidelty tonight again for the 100th time (okay, not really 100...)



Edited (1/30/2010) by barba_mama

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