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Turkey seeks names of YouTube´s Ataturk insulters from U.S.
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05 Dec 2008 Fri 04:52 pm |
Someones praising terrorists in Turkish parliament nowadays, is it free for Obama to praise Bin Ladin in US parliament? Is it enough for freedom of expression?
I´m sorry, I have difficulty understanding the point you´re making and how it relates to my question. If you´re saying that freedom of expression means you can say whatever you want, then no, I don´t think that´s what it means - definitely there are social rules that apply and consequences of making statements against those rules. Just like there are rules on this forum about what one can say and consequences of it as well. But what freedom of speech guarantees is that you won´t get jailed for having an opinion and expressing it.
What my question inquired about is, for the Turkish people, do they even question the legality or validity of the law that makes it a crime to insult turkishness? Does anybody consider if to be contrary to the guarantees of the constitution? Or do people think it´s ok? And what exactly is "turkishness"? Are there specifications which say what you can or cannot say? Obviously Ataturk is one, any others?
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05 Dec 2008 Fri 05:17 pm |
What my question inquired about is, for the Turkish people, do they even question the legality or validity of the law that makes it a crime to insult turkishness? Does anybody consider if to be contrary to the guarantees of the constitution? Or do people think it´s ok? And what exactly is "turkishness"? Are there specifications which say what you can or cannot say? Obviously Ataturk is one, any others?
I think some Turks do question the validity of it....but many never question anything. My own personal observation is that, from a young age, children in Turkey are taught not to question and to take offence to anything that seems to question anything to do with Turkey.
This is where I fail to understand how Turks feel about insulting Turkishness. I am really not trying to insult anyone, but my very nature, as an American, almost forces me to question EVERYTHING.
I am running back to the lounge now!
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05 Dec 2008 Fri 05:18 pm |
but my very nature, as a BED Amerikan, almost forces me to question EVERYTHING.
I am running back to the lounge now!
I edited your post for you - you made some mistakes
Yes come to the lounge - we have a new member (Armegon) - he loves me to dance
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05 Dec 2008 Fri 05:22 pm |
I edited your post for you - you made some mistakes
Yes come to the lounge - we have a new member (Armegon) - he loves me to dance
Thanks for watching my posts for me....I knew I could count on one of my evil Western sisters to help me.
Yes, I saw Armegon in the lounge last night...he was dancing too! I tried to get him to put his clothes back on but he just kept on!
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05 Dec 2008 Fri 05:22 pm |
Yes, I saw Armegon in the lounge last night...he was dancing too! I tried to get him to put his clothes back on but he just kept on!
No...really?!?!?!?!
I missed it
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05 Dec 2008 Fri 05:26 pm |
No...really?!?!?!?!
I missed it
I posted his dancing in the lounge forum. Of course, this was taken before things got out of hand!
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05 Dec 2008 Fri 05:26 pm |
Ehh, such a simple comment, no one need to think like you, change the verb "complain" into "disturb" then, you are also obsessed with the obsession of Turks , because of this i find your comments provoking rather than ridiculous.
Actually I prefer to think I´m amused by this obsession. It´s probably wrong of me as people who go to jail for their lack of love for Ataturk deserve more than amusement but that´s my mean nature
quoting armegon (I hate that new way of formating text, I don´t know how to multiquote anymore)
Mine just a thought too, your mentality opposes everything that i advocate, lighten up twice DayDreamer
Were I believer, I´d say thank God
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05 Dec 2008 Fri 05:31 pm |
Yes, I saw Armegon in the lounge last night...he was dancing too! I tried to get him to put his clothes back on but he just kept on!
Dear Bed Amerikan, do you realise (realize for you) you have just insulted Armegonness? You will be notified of suitable punishment once the TC board has had its annual conference. And yes, the amout of laptops you send to Turkish Dudus seriously increases your chances of the punishment being reduced to, say, five go-go dances a month.
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05 Dec 2008 Fri 05:42 pm |
I think some Turks do question the validity of it....but many never question anything. My own personal observation is that, from a young age, children in Turkey are taught not to question and to take offence to anything that seems to question anything to do with Turkey.
+10001
Perfect observation!!
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05 Dec 2008 Fri 06:07 pm |
Actually I prefer to think I´m amused by this obsession. It´s probably wrong of me as people who go to jail for their lack of love for Ataturk deserve more than amusement but that´s my mean nature
If it is only lack of love
Were I believer, I´d say thank God
Then i can say thank God, i think you should say thank my ego
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05 Dec 2008 Fri 06:09 pm |
I posted his dancing in the lounge forum. Of course, this was taken before things got out of hand!
No, you are mistaken , he more looks like your dudu husband , that you recorded and post it to youtube to prove how he twist wonderfully
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