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´Turkey is an imitation of the West´ Pamuk says
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20 Dec 2008 Sat 06:08 pm |
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That`s what I`m talking about. If he was an admirer of the west, how come he was also "a perfect occidentalist"?
Do I have to ignore this guy`s ignorance to be called a "liberal"? I`m sorry to disappoint his fanboys.
That is what I was talking about too..
occidentalism is defined in many dictionaries as :
-the scholarly knowledge of western cultures and languages and people
-the quality or customs or mannerisms characteristic of Western civilization.
But when it comes to my sweet nationalists, they will go and find ´anything´ to SLUR Orhan Pamuk..
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20 Dec 2008 Sat 06:10 pm |
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But when it comes to my sweet nationalists, they will go and find ´anything´ to SLUR Orhan Pamuk..
yep.. although interestingly, he´s one of few people that give turkey a good name abroad..
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20 Dec 2008 Sat 06:14 pm |
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My dictionary says that Occidentalism is quote: ´noun - the character, culture, customs, etc. of the Occident´
Related Forms: Occidentalist Oc′·ci·den′·tal·ist noun
Therefore I would assume that an occidentalist is someone who appreciates/follows/admires the character, culture, customs, etc of the Occident.
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20 Dec 2008 Sat 06:34 pm |
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"na to kefari,na to mermari"
It is a greek saying 
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20 Dec 2008 Sat 06:36 pm |
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"na to kefari,na to mermari"
It is a greek saying
"la havle ve la kuvvet"
it`s a an arabic saying
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20 Dec 2008 Sat 06:40 pm |
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"na to kefari,na to mermari" is being used in Turkey as ´nato kafa nato mermer´, specially by the parents and the teachers 
Anyway..lets not to change the subject
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20 Dec 2008 Sat 06:43 pm |
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"na to kefari,na to mermari" is being used in Turkey as ´nato kafa nato mermer´, specially by the parents and the teachers
Anyway..lets not to change the subject
that`s a good description for Pamuk`s fanboys!
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20 Dec 2008 Sat 06:49 pm |
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that`s a good description for Pamuk`s fanboys!
Well sorry but you keep copying and pasting the same thing again and again despite the fact that we are giving you the different definitions..
It is like ´noo..i dont care what it says in those dictionaries..but the real definition is this´.
Anyway..lets stay in the topic...
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20 Dec 2008 Sat 06:58 pm |
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Folks, stop cursing one another.
"Nato mermer nato" kafa as it is used in Turkish means you are thick as a brick...
You mustn´t call each other like that. I devote a full page just to imply that.
In my opinion most people are cureless idiots. These are usually harmless people.
The problem begins when an idiot thinks he has an IQ exceeding those of others combined.
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20 Dec 2008 Sat 06:59 pm |
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It is like ´noo..i dont care what it says in those dictionaries..but the real definition is this´.
it`s because the real definition is the one I quoted. Any scholarly source that mentions about occidentalism would prove that.
Let`s see what dictionaries say about orientalism;
1. A quality, mannerism, or custom specific to or characteristic of the Orient.
2. Scholarly knowledge of Asian cultures, languages, and peoples.
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Orientalism
But we all know that orientalism means nothing like that. Don`t we?
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