I deleted my comment, I decided that despite its brilliance, I should not attempt at humor in this thread. (Consider yourself lucky Femm, XOX).

Oh, the youth nowadays! Reading comprehension used to be such a useful skill . Let me break it down for you:

-you´re wrong as always

better now?

Oh, I didn´t know that! I thought that the innocent side had something to do with Hamas which is a terrorist organisation. I thought it was about lack of proportion but there are bad folks on both sides. Thanks for making it clear that there´s a flock of peace-loving Palestinians and evil, warmongering Jews

DD if you read what you quoted again, that´s not what she said

It´s hard to find something constructive to say about this seemingly endless "conflict" other than it should END

What pisses me off the most about this whole thinmg, is Syria´s attitude towards Egypt, calling us traitors and stuff, the whole arab world thinks egypt set this up with Israel, caus ethe Israeli lady thing (what is she?/) announced while on a visist in egypt that theyll be bombing, theyre saying that we should go into war with israel, what they dont get is that egypt has been fighting for palestine since 1948 in the palestine war (huuuuuuge losses) in1967 for syria, and lots of other time, the only time egypt wnt into war for itself was in 1973 and that was BECAUSE of wht happened in 1967, we lost 120 000 soldiers, and u know what, we dont have the resources or capability to go into war, were freegin POOOOOOOOR! ( what are u gonna do about the truth? Miht as well admit it )

Were doing the most that we can do, palestenians are entering egypt to get medical traetment fro free, and the blood donation peole for Gaza are everywhere in the streets, and people stand behind them in linesssss, palestenian want to enter egypt but we cant let them all come in , no matter how sory i feel for them, i wish they all could, but we dont have the reources to help them , they have no where to stay, we wont be able to handle these huge capacities, and then theyll make war bases from here and hamas ´ll satrt bombing here, and israel ´ll say, well, youve got our enemies and well be the only losing side in the end!

In school we all came wearing those palestenian thingies, th black and white triangle things they put on their backs ( no idea what theyre called!)

ANYWAY!

oh yeah i remeberd smthg!

When on the news they were talkign to this Israeli offcial and they said they wont stop bombing, the lady asked her why, she said they killed our civilians (Hamas, who have nthg to do with the innocent civilians!) the ;ady told her, well how many did their missles kill? whats the no? she wouldnt answer her, the lady kept telling her, u killed and injured (No.) and made (no.) homelss etc etc, the lady never answered, she just said we have the right to defend ourselves, why in the world are they refusing immediate truth?

Why are they usin all their resources and huge missles and ships etc etc so much and all at once?

To gain time of course! To take over as much land as possible until they finally accept the truth, so in the end they dont look bad!

Poor people!!!

One of our teachers his wife is palestenian, if u saw how he was youd cry! He actually cried in the middle of the session, i was gonna cry! His wife´s relatives died!!!

I have nthg else to say!!

NO COMMENT!!!

ITS JUST NOT FAIR!!!

SOOOOOOOOOOOO True!!

Ok now, this what i think about this article:

And now – after three decades of Hosni Mubarak – can Mubarak (or "La Vache Qui Rit", as he is still called in Cairo)

Ok loooooool! Thats true

restrain the anger of his people? The answer, of course, is that Egyptians and Kuwaitis and Jordanians will be allowed to shout in the streets of their capitals – but then they will be shut down, with the help of the tens of thousands of secret policemen and government militiamen who serve the princes and kings and elderly rulers of the Arab world.

TRUE

Egyptians demand that Mubarak open the Rafah crossing-point into Gaza, break off diplomatic relations with Israel,

TRUE

even send weapons to Hamas

FALSE!!!!

when he comes and lives here and sits with us then he cans ay what he wants!

i)To admit that Egypt can´t even open its sovereign border without permission from Washington tells you all you need to know about the powerlessness of the satraps that run the Middle East for us.

PAthetic! Yet TRUE

ii)To admit that Egypt can´t even open its sovereign border without permission from Washington tells you all you need to know about the powerlessness of the satraps that run the Middle East for us.

what does this tell u??

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The true disgrace of Egypt, however, is not in its response to the slaughter in Gaza. It is the corruption that has become embedded in an Egyptian society where the idea of service – health, education, genuine security for ordinary people – has simply ceased to exist.

TRUE!! AND This siw aht ppl complain abput! Taht our souls mean nthg to0t hem! They look at us like animals (the government!1)

It´s a land where the first duty of the police is to protect the regime, where protesters are beaten up by the security police, where young women objecting to Mubarak´s endless regime – likely to be passed on caliph-like to his son Gamal, whatever we may be told – are sexually molested by plain-clothes agents, where prisoners in the Tora-Tora complex are forced to rape each other by their guards.

NO, no, i think im being pretty honest here, this sint right, i thought thats what they used to say about SAddam, but probably his son Gamal will be the next ruler :S

There has developed in Egypt a kind of religious facade in which the meaning of Islam has become effaced by its physical representation. Egyptian civil "servants" and government officials are often scrupulous in their religious observances – yet they tolerate and connive in rigged elections, violations of the law and prison torture. A young American doctor described to me recently how in a Cairo hospital busy doctors merely blocked doors with plastic chairs to prevent access to patients. In November, the Egyptian newspaper Al-Masry al-Youm reported how doctors abandoned their patients to attend prayers during Ramadan.

 Its partially true, about how the public now is seeing Islam in the wrong way, and how much weve changed, it was just an article in the papers recently, but tghis guy is exaggerating.... Im SOOOOOOO SAD!

And amid all this, Egyptians have to live amid daily slaughter by their own shabby infrastructure. Alaa al-Aswani wrote eloquently in the Cairo paper Al-Dastour that the regime´s "martyrs" outnumber all the dead of Egypt´s wars against Israel – victims of railway accidents, ferry sinkings, the collapse of city buildings, sickness, cancers and pesticide poisonings – all victims, as Aswani says, "of the corruption and abuse of power". Opening the Rafah border-crossing for wounded Palestinians – the Palestinian medical staff being pushed back into their Gaza prison once the bloodied survivors of air raids have been dumped on Egyptian territory – is not going to change the midden in which Egyptians themselves live.

woooooooooow! how true is that, its soo sad, its exactly what i was aying about how cheap our souls are, the government doesnt give a damn! !!

Sayed Hassan Nasrallah, the Hizbollah secretary general in Lebanon, felt able to call on Egyptians to "rise in their millions" to open the border with Gaza, but they will not do so. Ahmed Aboul Gheit, the feeble Egyptian Foreign Minister, could only taunt the Hizbollah leaders by accusing them of trying to provoke "an anarchy similar to the one they created in their own country."

But he is well-protected. So is President Mubarak.(im guessing u know by whom)

Egypt´s malaise is in many ways as dark as that of the Palestinians. Its impotence in the face of Gaza´s suffering is a symbol of its own political sickness.

ok... now im crying!!!!! CAuse it ssooooo true! I knew that it was true before, btu its like i had to hear it from somewhere else to make it hurt even more!I ahve nooo comment other than F U MUBARAK! This is all ur fault! Life wa sgreat b4 u came! I hope u see thsia dn come and arest me or smthg1 ( ITS NOT fUNNY!!!!)

The massacre at Deir Yassin is one of some two dozen documented massacres of Palestinian civilians by Zionist forces seeking to transform Palestine into a Jewish state. If the import of catastrophes were gauged only in numbers of people slaughtered, Deir Yassin may not have taken on its central role in the Palestinian national consciousness. However, the terror at Deir Yassin triggered a mass flight of Palestinians who feared for their own lives. When Israel was established sixty years ago this May, more than 700,000 Palestinians lost their homes and belongings, their farms and businesses, their towns and cities. Jewish militias, and later, the Israeli army, drove them out. Israel rapidly moved Jews into the newly-emptied Palestinian homes. This tragic event and its consequences lie at the core of the Palestinian/Israeli problem.

1. What happened in the Palestinian village of Deir Yassin and why does it matter today?

In the early morning of April 9, 1948, three Zionist militias - the Haganah, Irgun and Stern Gang — attacked the Palestinian village of Deir Yassin, located west of Jerusalem. More than 100 men, women and children were massacred. Some were mutilated and raped before being murdered. Twenty-five men from the village were paraded through Jerusalem and then executed in a nearby quarry. Those able to escape fled to East Jerusalem.

Word of the terror attacks spread rapidly, causing many Palestinians to flee, fearing for their lives. Within a year of the massacre, Deir Yassin, which had been emptied of Palestinians, was re-populated with Jewish immigrants and its name was removed from the map.

For Palestinians, Deir Yassin became the symbol of the sudden loss of their homes and homeland and the near destruction of their society, a situation which endures until today. When Israel was established sixty years ago, more than 700,000 Palestinians were exiled and 78 percent of the land of historic Palestine was lost.

Today, Palestinian refugees number nearly four million, out of a total population of approximately ten million. They are still deprived of their internationally-recognized right to return to their homeland. In the West Bank, Israel continues to seize land for Israeli-only settlements and Israeli-only roads.

2. Who carried out the massacre?

The Haganah, which became the Israeli army, fired mortars at the village while the Irgun and Stern Gang attacked from close range. At the time of the massacre, David Ben-Gurion, Israel´s 1st prime minister, directed Haganah policy; Menachem Begin, Israel´s 6th prime minister, led the Irgun; and Yitzhak Shamir, Israel´s 7th prime minister, was a leader of the Stern Gang.

3. What resulted from the Deir Yassin massacre?

As news of the massacre spread, the ensuing terror triggered the mass flight of Palestinians. A few days after the attacks, in fact, the Irgun asserted that the incident advanced "terror and dread among the Arabs in all the villages around, in Al Maliha, Qaluniya and Beit Iksa a panic flight began …" The flight of Palestinian refugees fit into the plans of Zionist military and political leaders at the time. During the first week of April, a concerted campaign - known as Plan Dalet - to systematically expel Palestinians from areas sought for the soon-to-be-founded state of Israel went into effect. Zionist forces conducted eight major military operations against Palestinian cities and villages between April 1st and May 15th when Israel declared independence and Arab states intervened in response to the growing refugee crisis. Some 250,000 Palestinians had been expelled by then.

4. Was Deir Yassin an isolated incident?

No. While Deir Yassin may be the most infamous, Israeli historian Benny Morris documents 24 massacres of Palestinians conducted by Zionist, and then Israeli, forces in 1948. According to Morris, "In some cases four or five people were executed, in others the numbers were 70, 80, 100. There was also a great deal of arbitrary killing. Two old men are spotted walking in a field - they are shot. A woman is found in an abandoned village - she is shot. There are cases such as the village of Dawayima [in the Hebron region], in which a column entered the village with all guns blazing and killed anything that moved. The worst cases were Saliha (70-80 killed), Deir Yassin (100-11, Lod (25, Dawayima (hundreds) and perhaps Abu Shusha (7… The fact is that no one was punished for these acts of murder. Ben-Gurion silenced the matter. He covered up for the officers who did the massacres."

The Irgun and Stern Gang also attacked British and United Nations institutions and officers who they believed stood in the way of the Zionist enterprise in Palestine. The Irgun was responsible for the bombing of the King David Hotel, which was used as British military headquarters, in Jerusalem in 1946. Ninety-one people were killed. The Stern Gang assassinated Lord Moyne, the British minister of state for the Middle East, in 1944, attempted to assassinate Harold MacMichael, the High Commissioner of Palestine, in 1944 and assassinated Count Folke Bernadotte, the United Nations representative in the Middle East, in 1948.

5. What was the total destruction and how it is still relevant today?

In total, at least 450 Palestinian towns and villages were depopulated due to Zionist military attacks or fear of such attacks. Most of these were demolished. By the end of 1948, more than 700,000 Palestinians - two-thirds of the Palestinian population - were exiled and their society was destroyed. Even today, a Jew from anywhere in the world is welcome to settle in Israel, while Palestinians with the keys and deeds to their seized homes do not enjoy the right to return.

 Despite that US should tell us whether we open the borders or not,i dont agree that we open our borders totally infront of them.

Ý mean,yes we help of course,give medical help,food,welcome injured people in our hospitals,gives them the help that they need,give money,other recources...etc what ever

But we shouldnt open our borders openly

Gaza is problem made by Ýsrael as invader,and that is exactly what Ýsrael wants.

Palestinians leave there and go some where else.

We shouldnt help Ýsrael in doing so...

They attack us now for not opening the borders,but later they will see that we were right about it.

Ýsrael wants make it our problem...where its actually not.

Ýts a problem of land Ýsrael occupys by force and people Ýsrael trys to evacuate them.

Actually Doudi,we are not a poor country,we have many recourse indeed but not used well.

We went through many wars enough to know that war is hell,and its not something ones seek it

But if its forced upon us ,then we would be where we should be.

Plays with matches ?!

Mmmm,well,as far as i know they were already burning there inside,thats why they try to find way out!

Let me remind you that you left Gaza and blocking it from the whole world so its people die there

And again let me remind you this,Hamas was the elected government of palestine which Ýsrael refused

They dont hide behinde women and children,you are fighting them in their land,between their homes..so sure there will be women and children there !

They are not an organized army as you are,they dont have weapons to fight in an organised war

 Mmmmm,btw how many Ýsraeli civilian have been died through the 7 years if i may ask ?!

Look,let´s not fool ourselves here

Where was Ýsrael before 1948 then?!

Ask any Ýsraeli where did you come from,and you will hear many diffent answers

Ask any palestinian where did you and your family came from

You will hear just 1 answer !

So,let´s not talk about whose to blame here

Ýts not a very old history,Ýsrael is just 60 yrs old

So dont try to blame the victims here.

Let´s deal with the facts that we already have,you should both learn how to live together,side by side

And that only would be,by giving the Palestinians their lands acourding to the UN decision

And btw,we, Egypt took our land back after we went to war...not before that ,you didnt give it to us in exchange of peace or something without splitting blood there and signing a peace treaty!