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1.       thehandsom
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 22 Feb 2009 Sun 11:38 am

 

AKP and CHP Promise Change in Terrorism Law for Children

A delegation of human rights activists from Diyarbakir visited parliament yesterday, protesting against the fact that hundreds of children are being tried for alleged membership in a terrorist organisation.

 

 

The delegation spoke with pro-Kurdish Democratic Society Party (DTP) MP Gültan Kisanak. She said in a press briefing that they were trying to prevent children from taking part in protests, but that the reasons behind their participation had to be studied.

 

Muharrem Erbey, the president of Diyarbakir’s Human Rights Association (IHD), said that around 500 children aged between 12 and 17 are on trial for events that happened in 2008 alone.

 

He demanded that special children’s police should deal with children at mass protests, that the children be taken to a children’s prosecutor immediately, and that the investigation files be studied by lawyers.

 

Parties have promised amendments

 

...

Prior changes in law have affected children

 

In 2006, changes made in the Anti-Terrorism Law meant that 15- to 18-year-olds could be tried as adults for terrorism crimes. Human rights activists have pointed out that this amendment was made after protests took place in Kurdish-majority Diyarbakir in the southeast of Turkey.

...this led to many children being tried and facing heavy prison sentences.

 

 

This year, too, .....15 February led to more than 100 children being detained.

 

In 2006 and 2007, 1,572 children were put on trial for alleged terrorism crimes under the Anti-Terrorism Law or the Turkish Penal Code; 174 children were sentenced, 92 of them in Diyarbakir.

 

....

 

The full story:

http://www.bianet.org/english/k...n-terrorism-law-for-children

 

Right step to right direction!!{#lang_emotions_flowers}

 

 



Edited (2/22/2009) by thehandsom

2.       libralady
5152 posts
 22 Feb 2009 Sun 05:47 pm

http://www.everychildmatters.gov.uk/uncrc/

 

Has Turkey ratified the UN Convention for the Rights of the Child?  I can´t find that they have, but I might be looking in the wrong place - be interested to know after reading the article above.

3.       CANLI
5084 posts
 22 Feb 2009 Sun 06:18 pm

 

Quoting libralady

http://www.everychildmatters.gov.uk/uncrc/

 

Has Turkey ratified the UN Convention for the Rights of the Child?  I can´t find that they have, but I might be looking in the wrong place - be interested to know after reading the article above.

 

 Who has not ratified the Convention on the Rights of the Child and why?
The Convention on the Rights of the Child is the most widely and rapidly ratified human rights treaty in history. Only two countries, Somalia and the United States, have not ratified this celebrated agreement. Somalia is currently unable to proceed to ratification as it has no recognized government. By signing the Convention, the United States has signalled its intention to ratify—but has yet to do so.

http://www.unicef.org/crc/index_30229.html

4.       femmeous
2642 posts
 22 Feb 2009 Sun 06:39 pm

its a shame that children are treated as garbage in many countries esp. in eastern part of the world as well as in south america. and the problem is ignored, swept under the carpet.

its not the UN should love and care for children, it must the parents and the goverments together should provide normal life conditions.

 

  • Special protection measures and assistance

  • Access to services such as education and health care

  • Develop their personalities, abilities and talents to the fullest potential

  • Grow up in an environment of happiness, love and understanding

  • Be informed about and participate in achieving their rights in an accessible and active manner

 

5.       Azymuth
27 posts
 22 Feb 2009 Sun 07:10 pm

 

Quoting femmeous

its a shame that children are treated as garbage in many countries esp. in eastern part of the world as well as in south america. and the problem is ignored, swept under the carpet.

its not the UN should love and care for children, it must the parents and the goverments together should provide normal life conditions.

 

  • Special protection measures and assistance

  • Access to services such as education and health care

  • Develop their personalities, abilities and talents to the fullest potential

  • Grow up in an environment of happiness, love and understanding

  • Be informed about and participate in achieving their rights in an accessible and active manner

 

 

 Of course in an ideal world but we dont live in an ideal otherwise there would be no wars etc.  The children that the UN and UNICEF have to protect often don´t have parents and there is no support system in place in the country they live in.

 

If countries have ratified the Convention then the children should be protected ............ so why are so many living in conditions that are intolerable? 

 

Whats more, returning to the first topic, I am quite concerned to read this.

6.       femmeous
2642 posts
 22 Feb 2009 Sun 07:22 pm

 how does ratification help?

all other countries "ratified" the so called convention and so what?

does this change anything?

thank you for opening my eyes about non-ideal life.

bod?

Quoting Azymuth

 

 

 Of course in an ideal world but we dont live in an ideal otherwise there would be no wars etc.  The children that the UN and UNICEF have to protect often don´t have parents and there is no support system in place in the country they live in.

 

If countries have ratified the Convention then the children should be protected ............ so why are so many living in conditions that are intolerable? 

 

Whats more, returning to the first topic, I am quite concerned to read this.

 

 

7.       Azymuth
27 posts
 22 Feb 2009 Sun 07:31 pm

 

Quoting femmeous

 how does ratification help?

all other countries "ratified" the so called convention and so what?

does this change anything?

thank you for opening my eyes about non-ideal life.

bod?

Quoting Azymuth

 

 

 Of course in an ideal world but we dont live in an ideal otherwise there would be no wars etc.  The children that the UN and UNICEF have to protect often don´t have parents and there is no support system in place in the country they live in.

 

If countries have ratified the Convention then the children should be protected ............ so why are so many living in conditions that are intolerable? 

 

Whats more, returning to the first topic, I am quite concerned to read this.

 

 

 

 Did I say it did? Just making a point that countries that have ratified the convention should honour it........... nothing more. 

8.       cynicmystic
567 posts
 23 Feb 2009 Mon 12:07 am

Are you suggesting no country should ratify the convention, then?

Were you expecting an instantanous change the moment each country that ratified it signed the paperwork? Wait and see if it will change anything. At least, the problem is acknowledged. Time will show whether there is enough intention & capacity to change anything.

 

 

Quoting femmeous

 how does ratification help?

all other countries "ratified" the so called convention and so what?

does this change anything?

thank you for opening my eyes about non-ideal life.

bod?

Quoting Azymuth

 

 

 Of course in an ideal world but we dont live in an ideal otherwise there would be no wars etc.  The children that the UN and UNICEF have to protect often don´t have parents and there is no support system in place in the country they live in.

 

If countries have ratified the Convention then the children should be protected ............ so why are so many living in conditions that are intolerable? 

 

Whats more, returning to the first topic, I am quite concerned to read this.

 

 

 

 

9.       femmeous
2642 posts
 23 Feb 2009 Mon 12:24 am

 im closing my eyes and imaging the changes in african states (excluding wonderful somalia), middle east, far east, central asia, russia, eastern europe, south america countries.

i think i will have to keep closing my eyes for another couple of hundred years, being realistic.

nay, dont want to dream.

 

Quoting cynicmystic

Are you suggesting no country should ratify the convention, then?

Were you expecting an instantanous change the moment each country that ratified it signed the paperwork? Wait and see if it will change anything. At least, the problem is acknowledged. Time will show whether there is enough intention & capacity to change anything.

 

 

 

 

 

 

10.       cynicmystic
567 posts
 23 Feb 2009 Mon 12:51 am

 So, what would you suggest as a more ´realistic´ solution to resolving this problem instead of tarting by having countries ratify the convention? Because, after all, it is a problem that needs to be resolved. Obviously, some people thought the convention & its ramification would or could be agood starting point to build upon. But, you disagree, as you seem to believe it is useless as nothing will change. What is your suggestion as an alternative solution then? Care to share?

Quoting femmeous

 im closing my eyes and imaging the changes in african states (excluding wonderful somalia), middle east, far east, central asia, russia, eastern europe, south america countries.

i think i will have to keep closing my eyes for another couple of hundred years, being realistic.

nay, dont want to dream.

 

 

 

 

 

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