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WHO IS ODEN ?
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1.       AlphaF
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 15 May 2009 Fri 11:15 pm

Oden was the Viking god/hero;  the antient historical father of  Sweden.

A curious question is, which tribe/clan does Oden come from.

 

Prof. Sven Lagerbring of Sweden, believes that Oden was originally the ruler of a clan called Tirkiar (Turks). Professor´s  claim is based on his readings on antient carved stone monuments in Sweden and the similarities between Turkish and Swedish languages.



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2.       alameda
3499 posts
 16 May 2009 Sat 12:53 am

 

Quoting AlphaF

Oden was the Viking god/hero;  the antient historical father of  Sweden.

A curious question is, which tribe/clan does Oden come from.

 

Prof. Sven Lagerbring of Sweden, believes that Oden was originally the ruler of a clan called Tirkiar (Turks). Professor´s  claim is based on his readings on antient carved stone monuments in Sweden and the similarities between Turkish and Swedish languages.

 

Interesting...you wouldn´t have an English link would you?

3.       tatiyana_
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 16 May 2009 Sat 02:09 am

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4.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 16 May 2009 Sat 09:50 am

No, I have no references in English. It is not very surprising that this idea of Prof. Lagerbring has no  wide references in any Western languages.

 

A book by Prof. Lagerbring, on similarities betwee Turkish and Swedish languages and hereditary roots of Swedish people,, however is in print. It must have been written in Swedish first.

 

http://www.tulumba.com/storeItem.asp?ic=zBK335988FG570



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5.       Uzun_Hava
449 posts
 16 May 2009 Sat 10:36 am

 

Quoting AlphaF

No, I have no references in English. It is not very surprising that this idea of Prof. Lagerbring has no  wide references in any Western languages.

 

A book by Prof. Lagerbring, on similarities betwee Turkish and Swedish languages and hereditary roots of Swedish people,, however is in print. It must have been written in Swedish first.

 

http://www.tulumba.com/storeItem.asp?ic=zBK335988FG570

 I took a Swedish Class (not for credit) in college.  I can attest that Swedish is not a Turkic language. Its grammar is  like German and English.

 I have heard that Finnish  (Finland is "nextdoor" to Sweden) is member of the family of languages that Turk belongs to.  As always, I wish to know more about this.

 

FYI, Oden is the head God of all the Nordic cultures (Iceland, Norway, Sweden, and Danmark) and also the Germanic  cultures. (In German I think they call him Woten)  I believe that the English for Wednesday, comes from "Wodens day", just Thursday, is "Tors(god of thunders)" day.   I think Thunder comes for "Thorundur"

 

But Alpha  "rock on"  little by little you making all my ancestry Turkish! 

 



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6.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 16 May 2009 Sat 10:48 am

 

Quoting Uzun_Hava

 

 I took a Swedish Class (not for credit) in college.  I can attest that Swedish is not a Turkic language. Its grammar is  like German and English.

 

 

If you think you know more about the subject, compared to Prof. Lagerbring,  than what other choice do we have to believe you, instead?

 



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7.       Uzun_Hava
449 posts
 16 May 2009 Sat 10:57 am

 

Quoting AlphaF

 

If you think you know more about the subject, compared to Prof. Lagerbring,  than what choice do we have to believe you, instead?

 

 Keske Lagerbring gerçektir!  Gerçekten ya!

 

I wish it were true.  I wonder what details he has.

 

8.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 16 May 2009 Sat 11:05 am

 

Quoting Uzun_Hava

 

 Keske Lagerbring gerçektir!  Gerçekten ya!

 

I wish it were true.  I wonder what details he has.

 

Not only Finnish, but but few other European languages, including Hungarian and Bulgarian also share smilar roots with Turkish.

 

Give old Lagerbring a chance...Wink

 

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9.       Uzun_Hava
449 posts
 16 May 2009 Sat 11:13 am

Do簞rusun.  Sa簞olun.

10.       Emil Erman
118 posts
 16 May 2009 Sat 01:18 pm

 

Quoting AlphaF

Prof. Sven Lagerbring of Sweden, believes that Oden was originally the ruler of a clan called Tirkiar (Turks). Professor´s  claim is based on his readings on antient carved stone monuments in Sweden and the similarities between Turkish and Swedish languages.

 

?? So what would more precisely be these similarities between Turkish and Swedish?

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedish_language

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finnish_language

 

As far as I know Finnish and Hungarian belong to the Uralic language family and there are possible relations between these languages and Turkish or Turkic languages, but it is rather difficult to think that there might be a connection between Swedish (Germanic) and Turkish (Turkic/Altaic/Oghuz)

 

However, there is an interesting thread here

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uralic_languages#Possible_relations_with_other_families

 

about the Samoyedic languages (spoken by the Sami people see link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sami_people) that might be related to Turkic languages. Basically there is a remote possibility that peoples who inhabit the  actual national territory of Sweeden speak dialects of languages that might be part of the Uralic language family.

 

And also, if you check this link

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkish_language  

 

under History you will find this statement:

".....the Old Turkic language written using the Orkhon script, which has also been referred to as "Turkic runes" or "runiform" due to an external similarity to the Germanic runic alphabets."

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