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Benimle vs. benle
1.       Melek1974
154 posts 		 05 Aug 2009 Wed 02:32 am

I always thought that ile with personal pronouns would make benimle, seninle, onunla, etc. However I recently got myself Kenan Doðulu´s Festival CD and he´s singing:

 

Ne benle ne de bensiz

Ne senle ne de sensiz

Nereye kadar...

 

I´m wondering, is benle interchangeable with benimle? Is it gramatically correct?

 

Thanks
2.       si++
3785 posts 		 05 Aug 2009 Wed 06:39 am

 

Quoting Melek1974

I always thought that ile with personal pronouns would make benimle, seninle, onunla, etc. However I recently got myself Kenan Doðulu´s Festival CD and he´s singing:

 

Ne benle ne de bensiz

Ne senle ne de sensiz

Nereye kadar...

 

I´m wondering, is benle interchangeable with benimle? Is it gramatically correct?

No it´s not grammatically correct but that doesn´t mean native speakers don´t use it at all as seen above. It is seen in lyrics frequently probably because of rhyming considerations. This shows that songwriters do not have a good kowledge of Turkish grammar.

 

Thanks

 

When used with postpositions, the personal pronouns should be in genitive case (-(n)in suffix) except for 3rd pl person.

 

Ýçin =for

 

Ben-im için

Sen-in için

O-nun için

Biz-im için

Siz-in için

Onlar ile (Not onlar-ýn için)

 

Ýle = with

 

Ben-im ile

Sen-in ile

O-nun ile

Biz-im ile

Siz-in ile

Onlar ile (Not onlar-ýn ile)

 

Gibi = like

 

Ben-im gibi

Sen-in gibi

O-nun gibi

Biz-im gibi

Siz-in gibi

Onlar gibi (Not onlar-ýn gibi)

 

etc.
3.       Melek1974
154 posts 		 05 Aug 2009 Wed 05:09 pm

 

Quoting si++

 

 

When used with postpositions, the personal pronouns should be in genitive case (-(n)in suffix) except for 3rd pl person.

...

 

 Thank you very much Si++, very helpful explanation.
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