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1.       AlphaF
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 26 Oct 2009 Mon 03:00 pm

Drogheda is a small Irish town. They have a football club. The amblem of the club has a certain familiar look, no?

 

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2.       tccio
45 posts
 26 Oct 2009 Mon 03:08 pm

yes,nice. i also saw  this

3.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 26 Oct 2009 Mon 03:19 pm

http://www.gazozkapagi.net/capsinenglish8595/turkishhelptoirish.html



Edited (10/26/2009) by AlphaF

4.       ally81
461 posts
 26 Oct 2009 Mon 03:29 pm

 

Quoting AlphaF

Drogheda is a small Irish town. They have a football club. The amblem of the club has a certain familiar look, no?

 

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 Emblem

The crest of Drogheda United is an adaptation of the crest of Drogheda town´s coat of arms, which feature the heraldic symbols of a star and crescent over a shield depicting St. Lawrence´s Gate, three lions and a ship. The three lions passant represent England - as Drogheda lay within the Pale and was a garrison town - and the ship represents the town´s port.

While Drogheda United share the same symbols and colours as Trabzonspor, in Turkey - both recently declared to be brother teams - this has nothing to do with the Sultan of Turkey´s attempted relief of the Irish during the Great Famine of the nineteenth century, as the town coat of arms pre-dates the Great Famine by almost eight hundred years

 

Taken from wikipedia, I couldnt find a picture to show of crest of Drogheda town though, sorry, but thought this might clear up the reasons behind it

5.       _AE_
677 posts
 26 Oct 2009 Mon 03:59 pm

Premiership club Portsmouth FC also have the star and crescent:-

 

 



Edited (10/26/2009) by _AE_

6.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 26 Oct 2009 Mon 04:33 pm

Funny, I always think of it as the ranch in "The Thorn Birds".....Thanks for letting me know!<img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)

7.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 26 Oct 2009 Mon 05:19 pm

 

Quoting ally81

 

 

 Emblem

The crest of Drogheda United is an adaptation of the crest of Drogheda town´s coat of arms, which feature the heraldic symbols of a star and crescent over a shield depicting St. Lawrence´s Gate, three lions and a ship. The three lions passant represent England - as Drogheda lay within the Pale and was a garrison town - and the ship represents the town´s port.

While Drogheda United share the same symbols and colours as Trabzonspor, in Turkey - both recently declared to be brother teams - this has nothing to do with the Sultan of Turkey´s attempted relief of the Irish during the Great Famine of the nineteenth century, as the town coat of arms pre-dates the Great Famine by almost eight hundred years

 

Taken from wikipedia, I couldnt find a picture to show of crest of Drogheda town though, sorry, but thought this might clear up the reasons behind it

 

The rumor is that there is a related stone inscription on a wall of the historical Drogheda Municipality Building (now WESTCOURT HOTEL).

 

Official letter of thanks from Ireland to the Ottoman Sultan is still displayed in a Turkish Museum.

 

In a recent ceremony held by the inscription, Turkish Ambassador Taner Baytok said, this story appeared in an essay by Thomas P. O´Neill in THE TRESHOLD magazine (1957).

http://www.fountainmagazine.com/article.php?ARTICLEID=854

 

NOTE: the link above leads to a more recent article which appeared in the FOUNTAIN Magazine.. The magazine is published in USA; its web site includes an ABOUT section listing adresses where queries can be directed regarding truths of the printed articles.

 



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8.       ally81
461 posts
 26 Oct 2009 Mon 06:02 pm

 

Quoting AlphaF

 

 

The rumor is that there is a related stone inscription on a wall of the historical Drogheda Municipality Building (now WESTCOURT HOTEL).

 

Official letter of thanks from Ireland to the Ottoman Sultan is still displayed in a Turkish Museum.

 

In a recent ceremony held by the inscription, Turkish Ambassador Taner Baytok said, this story appeared in an essay by Thomas P. O´Neill in THE TRESHOLD magazine (1957).

http://www.fountainmagazine.com/article.php?ARTICLEID=854

 

NOTE: the link above leads to a more recent article which appeared in the FOUNTAIN Magazine.. The magazine is published in USA; its web site includes an ABOUT section listing adresses where queries can be directed regarding truths of the printed articles.

 

 

AlphaF sen çok akýllýsýn, how do you know so many things???!!!!! below is the essay you are talking about

 

 

TURKISH HELP TO IRISH DURING FAMINE

 

How wonderful that two countries so far apart are connected in such a wonderful and generous way, I learnt about this (story in the above hyperlink) when i was learning about the Irish famine in history class in school (a good few years ago haha)and I have always thought about this history whenever I have visited Turkey

 

Quoting Cem Özmeral October 2, 2008 Dublin, Ohio, from the above excert

"And I must add ; hopefully this story can reflect the reader in ways that can reveal a great deal for everyone willing to really understand that; ethnic, religious and cultural differences between us are all our strengths when it comes to caring about each other."

 

  

9.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 28 Oct 2009 Wed 02:08 am

Byzantine coin, first century BCE.

 

Here is a puzzle for those who may want to know more about the Ottoman star and crescent symbol that appears on Drogheda FC amblem.

 

The coin above is not Ottoman. In fact, Ottoman Empire did not exist when that coin was in circulation. Any idea who printed it ? and why Ottomans may have adopted the symbol on the coin?



Edited (10/28/2009) by AlphaF

10.       tccio
45 posts
 29 Oct 2009 Thu 11:55 pm

 

Quoting AlphaF

Byzantine coin, first century BCE.

 

Here is a puzzle for those who may want to know more about the Ottoman star and crescent symbol that appears on Drogheda FC amblem.

 

Yes, i know that coin. It´s Byzantine coin. But the same sign can be seen on Memluk Turks´ flag and Gokturk coins. I haven´t seen the coin in real though

 



Edited (11/9/2009) by tccio

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