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1.       elenagabriela
2040 posts
 29 Nov 2009 Sun 04:29 pm

Tomorrow is The Saint Andrew`s Day - for all christians (orthodox  or catholic) I want ot wish Happy Birthday

Malta

The first reference regarding the first small chapel at Luqa dedicated to Andrew dates to 1497. The pastoral visit of Mgr. Pietro Dusina affirms that this chapel contained three altars, one of them dedicated to Andrew. The titular painting showing "Mary with Saints Andrew and Paul" was painted by the Maltese artist Filippo Dingli.

At one time, many fishermen lived in the village of Luqa, and this may be the main reason behind choosing Andrew as patron saint. The titular statue of Andrew was sculpted in wood by Giuseppe Scolaro in 1779. This statue underwent several restoration works including that of 1913 performed by the Maltese renowned artist Abraham Gatt.

The Martyrdom of Saint Andrew on the main altar of the church was painted by Mattia Preti in 1687.

Romania

The official stance of the Romanian Orthodox Church is that Andrew preached the Gospel to the Daco-Romans in the province of Dobrogea (Scythia Minor), whom he converted to Christianity. Nevertheless, these claims are supported by little historical evidence are usually part of the nationalist protochronism ideology, supported by the Orthodox Church, which argues that the Church has been a companion and defender of the Romanian people for all of their 2000-year history.

 Russia and Ukraine

St Andrew´s prophecy of Kiev depicted in Radzivill Chronicle.
The monument in Kiev
The Kievan hill where St. Andrew is said to have erected the cross is commemorated by the cathedral dedicated in his name

Early Christian History in Ukraine holds that the apostle Andrew is said to have preached on the southern borders of modern-day Ukraine, along the Black Sea.

Legend has it that he travelled up the Dnieper River and reached the future location of Kiev, where he erected a cross on the site where the St. Andrew´s Church of Kiev currently stands, and prophesied the foundation of a great Christian city.

It was in the obvious interest of Kievan Rus´ and its later Russian and Ukraninian succesors, striving in numerous ways to link themselves with the political and religious heritage of Byzantium, to claim such a direct visit from the famous. Claiming direct lineage from St. Andrew also had the effect of disregarding any theological leanings of Greek orthodoxy over which disagreement arose, since the actual, much later, "indirect" proselytising via Byzantium was bypassed altogether. Still, as the same source quotes [7], Andrew only preached to the southern shore of the Black Sea (current Turkey).

Scotland

The Saltire (or "St. Andrew´s Cross") is the national flag of Scotland

About the middle of the tenth century, Andrew became the patron saint of Scotland. Several legends state that the relics of Andrew were brought under supernatural guidance from Constantinople to the place where the modern town of St Andrews stands today (Gaelic, Cill Rìmhinn).

The oldest surviving manuscripts are two: one is among the manuscripts collected by Jean-Baptiste Colbert and willed to Louis XIV of France, now in the Bibliothèque Nationale, Paris, the other in the Harleian Mss in the British Library, London. They state that the relics of Andrew were brought by one Regulus to the Pictish king Óengus mac Fergusa (729–761). The only historical Regulus (Riagail or Rule) — the name is preserved by the tower of St Rule — was an Irish monk expelled from Ireland with Saint Columba; his dates, however, are c 573 – 600. There are good reasons for supposing that the relics were originally in the collection of Acca, bishop of Hexham, who took them into Pictish country when he was driven from Hexham (c 732), and founded a see, not, according to tradition, in Galloway, but on the site of St Andrews. The connection made with Regulus is, therefore, due in all probability to the desire to date the foundation of the church at St Andrews as early as possible.

Another legend says that in the late eighth century, during a joint battle with the English at what is now known as Athelstaneford, King Ungus (either the Óengus mac Fergusa mentioned previously or Óengus II of the Picts (820–834)) saw a cloud shaped like a saltire, and declared Andrew was watching over them, and if they won by his grace, then he would be their patron saint.[10] However, there is evidence Andrew was venerated in Scotland before this.

Andrew´s connection with Scotland may have been reinforced following the Synod of Whitby, when the Celtic Church felt that Columba had been "outranked" by Peter and that Peter´s brother would make a higher ranking patron. The 1320 Declaration of Arbroath cites Scotland´s conversion to Christianity by Andrew, "the first to be an Apostle".

Numerous parish churches in the Church of Scotland and congregations of other Christian churches in Scotland are named after Andrew. The national church of the Scottish people in Rome, Sant´Andrea degli Scozzesi is dedicated to St Andrew.

Russian Orthodox icon of the Apostle Andrew, 18th century (Iconostasis of Transfiguration Church, Kizhi Monastery, Karelia, Russia).

Andrew is the patron saint of Ukraine, Scotland, Russia, Romania, Greece, Amalfi, Luqa in Malta, and Esgueira in Portugal. He was also the patron saint of Prussia. The flag of Scotland (and consequently the Union Flag and the arms and flag of Nova Scotia) feature St Andrew´s saltire cross. The saltire is also the flag of Tenerife and the naval jack of Russia. The Confederate flag also features a saltire commonly referred to as a St Andrew´s cross, although its designer, William Porcher Miles, said he changed it from an upright cross to a saltire so that it would not be a religious symbol but merely a heraldic device. The Florida and Alabama flag also show that device.

A statue of Andrew is an important element in the story of the 1956 Hollywood wartime romance Miracle in the Rain, starring Van Johnson and Jane Wyman. When Ruth, played by Wyman realizes she has lost Art, the statue inside St Patrick´s Cathedral, New York, becomes a focus of devotion for her.

The feast of Andrew is observed on November 30 in both the Eastern and Western churches, and is the national day of Scotland.

2.       Turkish-Teacher
257 posts
 29 Nov 2009 Sun 04:54 pm

thank you for the info

Quoting elenagabriela

Tomorrow is The Saint Andrew`s Day - for all christians (orthodox  or catholic) I want ot wish Happy Birthday

Malta

The first reference regarding the first small chapel at Luqa dedicated to Andrew dates to 1497. The pastoral visit of Mgr. Pietro Dusina affirms that this chapel contained three altars, one of them dedicated to Andrew. The titular painting showing "Mary with Saints Andrew and Paul" was painted by the Maltese artist Filippo Dingli.

At one time, many fishermen lived in the village of Luqa, and this may be the main reason behind choosing Andrew as patron saint. The titular statue of Andrew was sculpted in wood by Giuseppe Scolaro in 1779. This statue underwent several restoration works including that of 1913 performed by the Maltese renowned artist Abraham Gatt.

The Martyrdom of Saint Andrew on the main altar of the church was painted by Mattia Preti in 1687.

Romania

The official stance of the Romanian Orthodox Church is that Andrew preached the Gospel to the Daco-Romans in the province of Dobrogea (Scythia Minor), whom he converted to Christianity. Nevertheless, these claims are supported by little historical evidence are usually part of the nationalist protochronism ideology, supported by the Orthodox Church, which argues that the Church has been a companion and defender of the Romanian people for all of their 2000-year history.

  Russia and Ukraine

St Andrew´s prophecy of Kiev depicted in Radzivill Chronicle.
The monument in Kiev
The Kievan hill where St. Andrew is said to have erected the cross is commemorated by the cathedral dedicated in his name

Early Christian History in Ukraine holds that the apostle Andrew is said to have preached on the southern borders of modern-day Ukraine, along the Black Sea.

Legend has it that he travelled up the Dnieper River and reached the future location of Kiev, where he erected a cross on the site where the St. Andrew´s Church of Kiev currently stands, and prophesied the foundation of a great Christian city.

It was in the obvious interest of Kievan Rus´ and its later Russian and Ukraninian succesors, striving in numerous ways to link themselves with the political and religious heritage of Byzantium, to claim such a direct visit from the famous. Claiming direct lineage from St. Andrew also had the effect of disregarding any theological leanings of Greek orthodoxy over which disagreement arose, since the actual, much later, "indirect" proselytising via Byzantium was bypassed altogether. Still, as the same source quotes [7], Andrew only preached to the southern shore of the Black Sea (current Turkey).

 Scotland

The Saltire (or "St. Andrew´s Cross") is the national flag of Scotland

About the middle of the tenth century, Andrew became the patron saint of Scotland. Several legends state that the relics of Andrew were brought under supernatural guidance from Constantinople to the place where the modern town of St Andrews stands today (Gaelic, Cill Rìmhinn).

The oldest surviving manuscripts are two: one is among the manuscripts collected by Jean-Baptiste Colbert and willed to Louis XIV of France, now in the Bibliothèque Nationale, Paris, the other in the Harleian Mss in the British Library, London. They state that the relics of Andrew were brought by one Regulus to the Pictish king Óengus mac Fergusa (729–761). The only historical Regulus (Riagail or Rule) — the name is preserved by the tower of St Rule — was an Irish monk expelled from Ireland with Saint Columba; his dates, however, are c 573 – 600. There are good reasons for supposing that the relics were originally in the collection of Acca, bishop of Hexham, who took them into Pictish country when he was driven from Hexham (c 732), and founded a see, not, according to tradition, in Galloway, but on the site of St Andrews. The connection made with Regulus is, therefore, due in all probability to the desire to date the foundation of the church at St Andrews as early as possible.

Another legend says that in the late eighth century, during a joint battle with the English at what is now known as Athelstaneford, King Ungus (either the Óengus mac Fergusa mentioned previously or Óengus II of the Picts (820–834)) saw a cloud shaped like a saltire, and declared Andrew was watching over them, and if they won by his grace, then he would be their patron saint.[10] However, there is evidence Andrew was venerated in Scotland before this.

Andrew´s connection with Scotland may have been reinforced following the Synod of Whitby, when the Celtic Church felt that Columba had been "outranked" by Peter and that Peter´s brother would make a higher ranking patron. The 1320 Declaration of Arbroath cites Scotland´s conversion to Christianity by Andrew, "the first to be an Apostle".

Numerous parish churches in the Church of Scotland and congregations of other Christian churches in Scotland are named after Andrew. The national church of the Scottish people in Rome, Sant´Andrea degli Scozzesi is dedicated to St Andrew.

 

Russian Orthodox icon of the Apostle Andrew, 18th century (Iconostasis of Transfiguration Church, Kizhi Monastery, Karelia, Russia).

Andrew is the patron saint of Ukraine, Scotland, Russia, Romania, Greece, Amalfi, Luqa in Malta, and Esgueira in Portugal. He was also the patron saint of Prussia. The flag of Scotland (and consequently the Union Flag and the arms and flag of Nova Scotia) feature St Andrew´s saltire cross. The saltire is also the flag of Tenerife and the naval jack of Russia. The Confederate flag also features a saltire commonly referred to as a St Andrew´s cross, although its designer, William Porcher Miles, said he changed it from an upright cross to a saltire so that it would not be a religious symbol but merely a heraldic device. The Florida and Alabama flag also show that device.

A statue of Andrew is an important element in the story of the 1956 Hollywood wartime romance Miracle in the Rain, starring Van Johnson and Jane Wyman. When Ruth, played by Wyman realizes she has lost Art, the statue inside St Patrick´s Cathedral, New York, becomes a focus of devotion for her.

The feast of Andrew is observed on November 30 in both the Eastern and Western churches, and is the national day of Scotland.

 

 

3.       elenagabriela
2040 posts
 29 Nov 2009 Sun 05:03 pm

you are wellcome (rica ederim)

4.       turkishcobra
607 posts
 29 Nov 2009 Sun 05:06 pm

 

Have a happy Saint Andrew´s Day and happy birthday.

And thx for the information ...

 

 

thx

turkishcobra //

5.       Turkish-Teacher
257 posts
 29 Nov 2009 Sun 05:09 pm

 

Quoting elenagabriela

you are wellcome (rica ederim)

 

how about Protestants? Why dont they celebrate that day?

 

 

6.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 29 Nov 2009 Sun 07:17 pm

In Poland St Andrew´s Day is one of the biggest party nights On this day fortunes are being told for the next year (how pagan does this sound? lol). The most famous tradition is to pour melted wax through a keyhole (not the one in your door but the one on top of a key) into a bowl of water. The shape you get is your prophecy for next year. If you´re not sure what the shape is, check out its shade and this should help you

7.       Trudy
7887 posts
 29 Nov 2009 Sun 08:14 pm

I was raised Roman-Catholic but I´ve never heard of St.Andrew´s day. I don´t think it´s celebrated in the Netherlands. Is it a local custom?

8.       elenagabriela
2040 posts
 30 Nov 2009 Mon 07:51 am

 

Quoting Trudy

I was raised Roman-Catholic but I´ve never heard of St.Andrew´s day. I don´t think it´s celebrated in the Netherlands. Is it a local custom?

 

 The sSint Andrew`s day is celebrating in Romania, Russia, Ukraine, Scotland and Malta. In Romania the is a local tradition to put wheat in a small dishes, with water, to germinate, one dish for each family member. At New Year everybody look at his wheat, how green and tall is, and the year who come will be the same, with prosperity and health.

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