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Armenian children forced to read in the dark in Turkey
1.       Trudy
7887 posts
 13 Dec 2009 Sun 11:53 am

Children from Armenia are attending classes and reading smuggled textbooks at an illegal school in the basement of a building in Istanbul. Forbidden to attend Armenian minority schools under the Lausanne Treaty and the Special Education Law, these children could not go to school even if the Turkish-Armenian border is opened, unless the law is changed.

 

Tzsonivar is 8 years old and she misses her father and siblings who live in another country. Six-year-old Serge hopes to be president of that country some day. But for now, they are stuck in a legal twilight zone, unable to attend Turkish schools, studying in illegal elementary classes with smuggled textbooks and volunteer teachers.

Serge and Tzsonivar are Armenian. Unlike Turkish Armenians who can attend community schools established under the 1923 Treaty of Lausanne, these children are citizens of Armenia. Unlike expatriates, who often send their children to private foreign schools, Serge and Tzsonivar are poor. The tuition for a non-state school would be more than their undocumented parents can afford. Most parents would prefer their children to be educated in the Armenian language, even if they could afford to send them to private foreign schools in Turkey.

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And who are again the victims of politics? Children. {#emotions_dlg.head_bang}

 

2.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 13 Dec 2009 Sun 01:09 pm

 

Quoting Trudy

 Most parents would prefer their children to be educated in the Armenian language, even if they could afford to send them to private foreign schools in Turkey. 

 

 And herein lies the problem...

3.       armegon
1872 posts
 13 Dec 2009 Sun 01:37 pm

Who forced? their parents? stupid title of a article...

4.       si++
3785 posts
 13 Dec 2009 Sun 01:38 pm

 

Quoting Trudy

Children from Armenia are attending classes and reading smuggled textbooks at an illegal school in the basement of a building in Istanbul. Forbidden to attend Armenian minority schools under the Lausanne Treaty and the Special Education Law, these children could not go to school even if the Turkish-Armenian border is opened, unless the law is changed.

 

Tzsonivar is 8 years old and she misses her father and siblings who live in another country. Six-year-old Serge hopes to be president of that country some day. But for now, they are stuck in a legal twilight zone, unable to attend Turkish schools, studying in illegal elementary classes with smuggled textbooks and volunteer teachers.

Serge and Tzsonivar are Armenian. Armenian but not Turkish Armenian. Hmm illegal alliens? So what do you expect for them be done? Can you enlighten how your country treat illegal alliens´ children education? Unlike Turkish Armenians who can attend community schools established under the 1923 Treaty of Lausanne, these children are citizens of Armenia. Unlike expatriates, who often send their children to private foreign schools, Serge and Tzsonivar are poor. The tuition for a non-state school would be more than their undocumented parents (Undocumented parents. There you go! So they are illegally living in Turkey, right?) can afford. Most parents would prefer their children to be educated in the Armenian language, even if they could afford to send them to private foreign schools in Turkey.

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And who are again the victims of politics? Children. {#emotions_dlg.head_bang}

 

 

 

5.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 13 Dec 2009 Sun 01:39 pm

 

Quoting armegon

Who forced? their parents? stupid title of a article...

 

 I agree.  We are being presented "victims" but if the story were about illegal aliens wanting to be taught their own language in schools, so receiving no education in Holland, it would take on a much different tone....

6.       alameda
3499 posts
 13 Dec 2009 Sun 09:55 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

 

 

 I agree.  We are being presented "victims" but if the story were about illegal aliens wanting to be taught their own language in schools, so receiving no education in Holland, it would take on a much different tone....

 

It is sort of absurd to expect illegal aliens to have special schools to teach their native language. 

 

There has been a lot of debate in the US regarding the teaching and propagation of Spanish, however there was a special treaty related to the teaching and preservation of the Spanish language, it´s the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo.  That treaty covers a very large part of the US.

7.       barba_mama
1629 posts
 13 Dec 2009 Sun 10:39 pm

... At first I thought the children could not go to school at all in Turkey, but now the problem is half that they cannot go to school in Turkey, and half that they can´t go to an Armenian school? Is it just me or is this confusing

8.       alameda
3499 posts
 13 Dec 2009 Sun 11:05 pm

 

Quoting barba_mama

... At first I thought the children could not go to school at all in Turkey, but now the problem is half that they cannot go to school in Turkey, and half that they can´t go to an Armenian school? Is it just me or is this confusing

 

As I understand it, they are illegal aliens in Turkey and as such do not have any rights to services provided by the Turkish government. 

 

The ultimate responsibility is with their parents who, knowing they are illegal,  put them in the situation. It´s very sad for the children.

9.       teaschip
3870 posts
 14 Dec 2009 Mon 10:20 pm

 

Quoting Trudy

Children from Armenia are attending classes and reading smuggled textbooks at an illegal school in the basement of a building in Istanbul. Forbidden to attend Armenian minority schools under the Lausanne Treaty and the Special Education Law, these children could not go to school even if the Turkish-Armenian border is opened, unless the law is changed.

 

Tzsonivar is 8 years old and she misses her father and siblings who live in another country. Six-year-old Serge hopes to be president of that country some day. But for now, they are stuck in a legal twilight zone, unable to attend Turkish schools, studying in illegal elementary classes with smuggled textbooks and volunteer teachers.

Serge and Tzsonivar are Armenian. Unlike Turkish Armenians who can attend community schools established under the 1923 Treaty of Lausanne, these children are citizens of Armenia. Unlike expatriates, who often send their children to private foreign schools, Serge and Tzsonivar are poor. The tuition for a non-state school would be more than their undocumented parents can afford. Most parents would prefer their children to be educated in the Armenian language, even if they could afford to send them to private foreign schools in Turkey.

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And who are again the victims of politics? Children. {#emotions_dlg.head_bang}

 

 

 So let me get this straight..if they are illegals they could still pay and go to private schools in Turkey.  However, since they are illegals they can´t go to public schools in Turkey?  Yes, you are right Trudy they are clearly victims of the political system by no fault of their own.

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