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10.       Yersu
241 posts
 15 Mar 2010 Mon 08:34 pm

 

Quoting ReyhanL

What about Artemis ? {#emotions_dlg.unsure}

 

What does it have to do with this thread?!??

 

(Joking Tbh. I have not heard of anything about that restoration project, I just wanted to say sorry for hijacking your thread)

11.       lemon
1374 posts
 15 Mar 2010 Mon 08:47 pm

 

Quoting upsy_daisy

 

 

Sorry, my dear, aunty  if we disappointed you as we are not intolerant, bigoted or prejudiced against the pagans and paganism as you think we are.

By the way,  I am amazed by your ignorance and lack of history knowledge. 

please feel free to say, "upsydaisy is neurotic"

 

ah hello my neurotic friend. i see you are still upset with my joke. well, some people have no sense of humour.

 

you dont disappoint me at all. im not thinking of your intolerance or prejudice as you suspect me of. havent said anything like that. you and your brothers (armegon, yersu) tend twist my words.

my point was on the laws and regulations. in most muslim countries building or restoring of religious buildings other than mosques were forbidden.

 

and upsy daisy, you are more than welcome to educate me and enlighten me. maybe it will heal my ignorance?

 

im waiting...

12.       ReyhanL
1961 posts
 15 Mar 2010 Mon 08:50 pm

Come on Limon...they are living from historical places like The Temple of Artemis...

13.       lemon
1374 posts
 15 Mar 2010 Mon 09:11 pm

 

Quoting ReyhanL

Come on Limon...they are living from historical places like The Temple of Artemis...

 

hey, me too sorry for taking a discourse. of course, you are right.

 

i have nothing against the greek temple

 

and I said nothing against the turks, I didnt mention of anything like intolerance or prejudice. just some zealous nationalist members see what they want to see both in my posts and in me. what a shame.

 

and i repeat koran itself doesnt consider judaism and christianity as pagans. and enemies are something different than pagans. which has nothing to do with a thread.

 

and of course, the idea of restoring the temple seems to be interesting yet something highly challengable. it requires a lot of money, expert thorough knowledge.

 

but still a pagan temple in a muslim country. sounds quite strange. what would neighbouring middle east say?

14.       ReyhanL
1961 posts
 15 Mar 2010 Mon 09:33 pm

im more used with `gâvur` name {#emotions_dlg.bigsmile}

15.       ptaszek
440 posts
 15 Mar 2010 Mon 11:00 pm

 

Quoting lemon

 

 

 

but still a pagan temple in a muslim country. sounds quite strange. what would neighbouring middle east say?

 

 definitely you are not mobile lemon and obviously with no knowledge on Turkish  cultural heritage. Perge-pagan, Myra-pagan, Truva-pagan, Selcuk-pagan,  Antalyan Hadrian walls-pagan just examples and many,many sites pagan...terrible Turks!!!!!!!!!!they preserve so many pagan places!!!!!!!!!too many!!!!!!!!!! all they should do is to get some dynamite and blow !!!!!!!!!!

16.       ptaszek
440 posts
 15 Mar 2010 Mon 11:13 pm

 

Quoting upsy_daisy

 

 

Sorry, my dear, aunty  if we disappointed you as we are not intolerant, bigoted or prejudiced against the pagans and paganism as you think we are.

By the way,  I am amazed by your ignorance and lack of history knowledge. 

please feel free to say, "upsydaisy is neurotic"

 

 upsy,don´tyou exaggerate???Lemon knows everything.She could work in Sybille  temples if there was still employment´s demand in PAGAN temples in Turkey.She is  the TLC expert on everything,I dare to say you are an ignorant in not having noticed that!

17.       lemon
1374 posts
 15 Mar 2010 Mon 11:21 pm

 

Quoting ptaszek

 

 

 definitely you are not mobile lemon and obviously with no knowledge on Turkish  cultural heritage. Perge-pagan, Myra-pagan, Truva-pagan, Selcuk-pagan,  Antalyan Hadrian walls-pagan just examples and many,many sites pagan...terrible Turks!!!!!!!!!!they preserve so many pagan places!!!!!!!!!too many!!!!!!!!!! all they should do is to get some dynamite and blow !!!!!!!!!!

 

im trying to get your point. what is it?

 

of course, you are an expert on Turkey (in your own eyes).

 

so tell me, how many of them were restored or rebuilt?

 

18.       lemon
1374 posts
 15 Mar 2010 Mon 11:29 pm

 

Quoting ptaszek

 

 

 upsy,don´tyou exaggerate???Lemon knows everything.She could work in Sybille  temples if there was still employment´s demand in PAGAN temples in Turkey.She is  the TLC expert on everything,I dare to say you are an ignorant in not having noticed that!

 

nooooooooooo, I thought im a poor simple woman from Kazakhstan - soviet republic who ows so much to ptaszek(a proud daughter of her country, the question is which country?), without her sheltering me I would probably die of hunger.

 

and I have never been to Turkey, never had relatives, never had a dudu too, so this means I have absolutely no right to say anything about Turkey. genius!

 

I mean the logic is soooo simple just freshly taken from the kinder-garten´s survey. the conclusions and the statements are so deep that im almost drowned.

 

On a serious note: while discussing why do you go personal? why dont you stay on the subject itself.

19.       ptaszek
440 posts
 15 Mar 2010 Mon 11:29 pm

 

Quoting lemon

 

 

im trying to get your point. what is it?

 

of course, you are an expert on Turkey (in your own eyes).

 

so tell me, how many of them were restored or rebuilt?

 

 

 lemon.darlink,i do not consider myself an expert but my knowledge helps during official visits.Helps to those who see Turkey via stereotypes of 1990 bazars)

The Artemis rebuilding is a great idea and as far as I know funds will be found to make this idea real.Turkish people and authorities care!!!!suprisingly!!!about their past and  they do their best to preserve history,proud of it,at least I got such impression during university study visits,visits to archeological sites and finally politicians-decisions makers talks. The history is a key factor for tourist industry and it is the main Turkish priority) All agree the history despite roots-religious,social,etc is important and worth preserving.



Edited (3/15/2010) by ptaszek
Edited (3/15/2010) by ptaszek [sonunda is my nightmare))]

20.       ReyhanL
1961 posts
 15 Mar 2010 Mon 11:33 pm

Thanks for the answer Birdy... so the project is not forgotten..

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