I, too, noticed that...but didn´t save...because I didn´t know it was to be deleted later...But, haha! I haven´t yet made my decision about whether I should be offended or proud of  "having a weird mentality".

Quite frankly, I would rather such things not be in my head at all.  We all know the world is full of ugly things, but who wants to focus on them? Is the glass half empty or is it half full?

Spritzer, why are you getting your panties all twisted up over an article posted in the "news" section here?  This isn´t a propoganda site where only the rosy-rainbow-lollipop news gets posted! 

Many of us here are interested in what´s happening.....good, bad and ugly....and are appreciative when someone takes there time to share something they have heard or learned.  Hiding our heads in the sand and pretending things like this don´t happen serves no purpose.   And no one is ignorant enough to think it doesn´t happen where they are from so save your breath on that rant! 

If you had taken the time to read just a teensy little bit you would know that Trudy has posted countless postive pieces on the subject of Turkey. 

Now why don´t you go on and make yourself a nice cold spritzer and chill. 

In light of all this rhetoric I will make a suggestion to TC. My suggestion is make a back door forum for crap like this that will not pop up in the forum column - this way those that seek this type of  excitement and the need to post alarming news posts can do so and those that wish to see this maygo to that particular area of forum - this would work and not offend some of the younger members and nonmembers who come to TC to read posts. You could place a "this may offend " little warning on this section. I am now asking if any TC memebers  concur to this idea

or would your prefer to see titles like  guess who raped and murdered now.......

This is not the Turkey tourism board. So, we don´t have to say that Turkey is walhalla, heaven on earth, and everything is perfect. When stuff happens in Turkey, it´s news, and it might as well be posted on here. News is not "crap". I like to know what is in the news in Turkey at the moment. I don´t have any Turkish news channels on my tv anymore, and I like to know what is REALLY going on, so I appreciate people posting the actual news on here. Keeps me updated. There´s already enough happy stuff on here, and from the post titels you can always filter what you read to be only positive stuff.

Just by saying that some crazy people are living in Turkey, or somebody did something bad in Turkey, nobody is saying that their own country is perfect. Horrible stuff happens everywhere, but for Trudy to post all the bad things about Holland on a Turkish forum would be REALLY strange

Spritzer, this is now a segregation. you are suggesting that some people (young or random) shouldnt have an access to such information on TC.

Besides, it looks like everything offends everyone these days.

If people are learning about Turkey why not learn all the bad and good?

I personally do not want to hear anything about rape or murder. But what can you do? Bad news always hit first and is more sensational.

Maybe the media stirring it up because nothing was done in this regard? There must be a reason? I dont know.

I don´t see anything wrong with posting this, however I think the area and the ethnicity involved should have been clearly mentioned. I have said this before in threads about honor killings, passing these off simply as "Turkish" is misleading.

Aside from that, let´s examine this incident to see why it´s not really a regular rape case like those spritzer posted.

-First of in small cities like this, people know eachother. Considering how many suspects are involved, probably hundreds or even thousands of people knew about it, no one did anything.

- At least several "honor killing" incidents seem to occur in said city per year. You can make a simple google search to verify this. It´s highly probable that if one of the victims had a boyfriend she would be killed.

-People of this region are known for their claims of how religious they are, their high moral values, how all their women wear hijabs bla bla. Many also claim they are seyids (descendants of prophet Muhammad). You would probably not be able to eat something in the street in Ramadan without geting attacked. Latest (March 2009) election results from said city:

- DTP (Kurdish separatist party): 49.4

- AKP (Religious(?) party): 45.8

- Rest: <5%

- A few days after this incident, another one surfaced where a group of YIBO school students raped 2 toddlers, killing one. Same city, this time Pervari district.

- After these two incident, major of the city made a public announcement along the lines of "Leave our city alone".

- R.T. Erdoğan, our current president, has been elected to the parliament from this city, with huge support. Also his wife happens to be from the same city. He has expressed some discomfort in these issues having widespread public attention.

- In a few months time the first case will be dismissed as it has gone beyond a certain time limit (zaman aşımı, don´t know it in English). There seems to be some effort to make this happen, from shady religious fanatic organizations of the region and their political accomplices.

As you can see, this is not really a simple rape case. This is one of the darkest moments in the history of mankind. Had this happened in biblical times, it´s story would not have been different than the stories of Sodom and Gomorrah. Unfortunately, those miracles don´t happen anymore. Of course you can always emulate it by quarantining the city and carpet bombing it till nothing is breathing. Just my two cents.

Yersu, thank you for your two cents. Interesting to read.

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