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60.       gokuyum
5050 posts
 22 Jun 2010 Tue 06:41 am

There are people in this site learning Turkish. I appreciate them. There are also people here  for chatting. I have also no objection to it. But there is a one kind of people here who trying to seem nice to admins by making extreme comments about everything. Especially about Turkey´s culture, people and policies. They have an orientalist approach to everything about Turkey. They always criticize our culture and people and underestimate them. They always trying to teach us something without knowing anything. These people have a large numbers of posts but nearly all of them useless because they know us only by reading newspapers.And with their stupid comments they provoke us. Some can say they have Turkish friends or husbands.But it seems it isn´t enough because I see insulting comments about women in burkas without realizing their situations. I think their friends and husbands don´t tell them enough about eastern culture and eastern religions. If they told them they would know that instead of insulting poor women they should blame the men who put them into this situation. Instead of defending and supporting those poor women, the women here some of them may be claiming they are modern feminist western women, insult them without knowing anything about them. I have a problem with this kind of people. I have a problem with this kind of people that they are making fun of sad things. I have a problem with this kind of people they don´t have any knowledge. I have a problem with this kind of people that they think they know everything.  At least you should try to be useful or try to learn something. Don´t hinder people trying to do positive things. Try to improve yourselves. I read  only this year 106 books(i have a list of them) about philosophy, western culture, eastern culture, history, Turkish literature, eastern and western literature and about other subjects. But i have never acted like you like i know everything about western or eastern countries and people. I am always trying to improve myself. And i feel myself always deficient. I care about people´s experiences. I care about facts. I don´t mock people who have experiences and telling the facts. I am trying to learn something from them. I always care about writing something with facts. I am always trying to show strong sources when i am talking about something. Yes i wrote my motto as "write first, think later" But this motto performs only to my translations. I wrote it because i am caring so much about my translations and after i translated texts i always checking them for mistakes and thinking about them. I don´t want people to misunderstand something because of my translation. I always modify them. I never let them go. Because i respect people. This motto is some kind of a joke about the numbers of my modifications. But some of you are trying to use this joke about my perfectionism on my translations as a weapon against me. Some of you blame me for having a lot of time. I don´t have a lot of time. I entered two big exams this year and i am also preparing a thesis about Turkish teaching. But i also try to help people. Some says it is not an altruism because I improve my English by translating texts. First of all let me say one thing. I don´t believe such a thing like altruism. I believe human is an egoist creature and everything he/she does for egoist purposes even favors and sacrifices. I believe all actions carry an egoist motive under them. Yes i am improving my English too by translating them but i don´t need to translate them anymore. Because i chat and talk in English with a foreigner friend and it improves my English more than translating texts. So for a long time i am translating texts only for receiving thanks. I want only people´s thanks for my translations. It can be an egoist thing but it doesn´t hurt anybody. But your egoism hurts people. I know we are all egoists creatures but we have to control ourselves. If we can´t control ourselves we can harm people and harming people means harming yourself because every action has a reaction. So here is my philosophy: help people, receive thanks, improve yourself, don´t talk without proofs and support your friends when they are right. Please don´t block the sun and don´t drag me into your darkness. Bye.



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61.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 22 Jun 2010 Tue 08:26 am

 

Quoting gokuyum

There are people in this site learning Turkish. I appreciate them. There are also people here  for chatting. I have also no objection to it. But there is a one kind of people here who trying to seem nice to admins by making extreme comments about everything. Especially about Turkey´s culture, people and policies. They have an orientalist approach to everything about Turkey. They always criticize our culture and people and underestimate them. They always trying to teach us something without knowing anything. These people have a large numbers of posts but nearly all of them useless because they know us only by reading newspapers.And with their stupid comments they provoke us. Some can say they have Turkish friends or husbands.But it seems it isn´t enough because I see insulting comments about women in burkas without realizing their situations. I think their friends and husbands don´t tell them enough about eastern culture and eastern religions. If they told them they would know that instead of insulting poor women they should blame the men who put them into this situation. Instead of defending and supporting those poor women, the women here some of them may be claiming they are modern feminist western women, insult them without knowing anything about them. I have a problem with this kind of people. I have a problem with this kind of people that they are making fun of sad things. I have a problem with this kind of people they don´t have any knowledge. I have a problem with this kind of people that they think they know everything.  At least you should try to be useful or try to learn something. Don´t hinder people trying to do positive things. Try to improve yourselves. I read  only this year 106 books(i have a list of them) about philosophy, western culture, eastern culture, history, Turkish literature, eastern and western literature and about other subjects. But i have never acted like you like i know everything about western or eastern countries and people. I am always trying to improve myself. And i feel myself always deficient. I care about people´s experiences. I care about facts. I don´t mock people who have experiences and telling the facts. I am trying to learn something from them. I always care about writing something with facts. I am always trying to show strong sources when i am talking about something. Yes i wrote my motto as "write first, think later" But this motto performs only to my translations. I wrote it because i am caring so much about my translations and after i translated texts i always checking them for mistakes and thinking about them. I don´t want people to misunderstand something because of my translation. I always modify them. I never let them go. Because i respect people. This motto is some kind of a joke about the numbers of my modifications. But some of you are trying to use this joke about my perfectionism on my translations as a weapon against me. Some of you blame me for having a lot of time. I don´t have a lot of time. I entered two big exams this year and i am also preparing a thesis about Turkish teaching. But i also try to help people. Some says it is not an altruism because I improve my English by translating texts. First of all let me say one thing. I don´t believe such a thing like altruism. I believe human is an egoist creature and everything he/she does for egoist purposes even favors and sacrifices. I believe all actions carry an egoist motive under them. Yes i am improving my English too by translating them but i don´t need to translate them anymore. Because i chat and talk in English with a foreigner friend and it improves my English more than translating texts. So for a long time i am translating texts only for receiving thanks. I want only people´s thanks for my translations. It can be an egoist thing but it doesn´t hurt anybody. But your egoism hurts people. I know we are all egoists creatures but we have to control ourselves. If we can´t control ourselves we can harm people and harming people means harming yourself because every action has a reaction. So here is my philosophy: help people, receive thanks, improve yourself, don´t talk without proofs and support your friends when they are right. Please don´t block the sun and don´t drag me into your darkness. Bye.

 

 Guess what gokuyum...it´s not your place to judge anyones experiences.  You have no idea what brings people here.  You have no clue about anyone´s experiences with burqas or anything else because you don´t bother to know the people who dare to disagree with you. 

You have taken one persons twisted veiw of some pictures posted on this site and turned it into your own personal trauma.  You are clueless as to the WHYs of things.  You only want to stand your shaky ground and not listen to people who have tried above and beyond to explain their point of view to you (explainations by the way that you are not owed to you or anyone else).  But you only want to hear the words of your "best friend". 

You say you respect people????  That is a joke.  If you had a modicum of respect for anyone here other than yourself and people who see things your way you would have said your peace about poor little spritzymedic and moved on from it.  Your "respect" rings hollow.  You only respect people who cowtow to your antics and sway to your way of seeing things.  This is the real world buddy!   

You want to IMPROVE yourself?  Then learn to control yourself and accept differing opinions like a man and stop your arrogant lecturing about things you don´t like!

62.       gokuyum
5050 posts
 22 Jun 2010 Tue 10:21 am

i think you are a mentally s..k person lacking empathy. go get help and dont bother me anymore.end of discussion.



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63.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 22 Jun 2010 Tue 01:46 pm

Surely, someone  is over estimating himself and under estimating the others. That is what makes  people ´arrogant´.

I think, sometimes, even some arrogant people might be tolerable as long as they fill it with knowledge. But if the lack of knowledge is so obvious,  it JUST does not go very well..

64.       turkishcobra
607 posts
 22 Jun 2010 Tue 01:55 pm

 

 

And surely, according to some people, if you aren´t thinking like them, then you are "ignorant"

 

Declaring other people "arrogant" because of thinking they are lack of knowledge is the peak of "arrogancy".

 

Interesting...

 

 

65.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 22 Jun 2010 Tue 02:04 pm

 

Quoting turkishcobra

 

 

And surely, according to some people, if you aren´t thinking like them, then you are "ignorant"

 

Declaring other people "arrogant" because of thinking they are lack of knowledge is the peak of "arrogancy".

 

Interesting...

 

 

I dont think you understood what I was saying !!!

 

 

66.       scalpel
1472 posts
 22 Jun 2010 Tue 03:47 pm

 

Quoting turkishcobra

 

 

Declaring other people "arrogant" because of thinking they are lack of knowledge is the peak of "arrogancy".

 

Interesting...

 

 

 

checkmate!{#emotions_dlg.lol}

 

67.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 22 Jun 2010 Tue 03:51 pm

 

Quoting scalpel

 

 

checkmate!{#emotions_dlg.lol}

 

 

Ha ha. You did not understand either!! lol

68.       turkishcobra
607 posts
 22 Jun 2010 Tue 03:53 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

 

 

Ha ha. You did not understand either!! lol

 

 

If two people "did not understand" what you said, then problem is at you.

 

So, you deserve this icon > {#emotions_dlg.lol_fast}

69.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 22 Jun 2010 Tue 03:58 pm

 

Quoting turkishcobra

 

 

 

If two people "did not understand" what you said, then problem is at you.

 

So, you deserve this icon > {#emotions_dlg.lol_fast}

 

I dont think you should be  insisting on it..lol 

You, checkmate brothers,  both really missed the point..  Ha ha 

 

70.       turkishcobra
607 posts
 22 Jun 2010 Tue 04:00 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

 

 

I dont think you should be  insisting on it..lol 

You, checkmate brothers,  both really missed the point..  Ha ha 

 

 

OK, thehandsom, ok...

 

Who cares to be checkmated by you?? Discussing, or trying to discuss with you is #1 factor to waste time...

 

So, ending that discussion in my own.

 

Easy come!

 



Edited (6/22/2010) by turkishcobra

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