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There is no place for God : Stephen Hawking
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1.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 03 Sep 2010 Fri 01:40 pm

 

Stephen Hawking: God did not create Universe

 

The Universe can create itself from nothing, says Prof Hawking

There is no place for God in theories on the creation of the Universe, Professor Stephen Hawking has said.

 

..But in a new book, he concludes the Big Bang was an inevitable consequence of the laws of physics.

 

The Grand Design, part serialised in the Times, says there is no need to invoke God to set the Universe going.

 

"Spontaneous creation is the reason there is something," he concluded.

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11161493

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How can I explain this to my mom who is fasting at this very moment?

 

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2.       Daydreamer
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 03 Sep 2010 Fri 03:12 pm

You can´t explain it to mum That´s the biggest hoax of religions - their followers do not need explanations or proofs...it´s all based on faith

 

I loved the line about religion in the last episode of The Big Bang Theory

"I don´t object to the concept of a deity, but I´m baffled by the notion of one that takes attendance" lol

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3.       gokuyum
5046 posts
 03 Sep 2010 Fri 04:49 pm

I trust science and i believe one day god will be proved by it.

Check this book:  http://www.amazon.com/There-God-Notorious-Atheist-Changed/dp/0061335304/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1283521923&sr=8-1



Edited (9/3/2010) by gokuyum

4.       libralady
5152 posts
 03 Sep 2010 Fri 07:07 pm

 

Quoting gokuyum

I trust science and i believe one day god will be proved by it.

Check this book:  http://www.amazon.com/There-God-Notorious-Atheist-Changed/dp/0061335304/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1283521923&sr=8-1

 

 Until that day, we will grow old...... and many millennia later (if earth exists that long and we have not destroyed it) the same questions will still be asked.  So until then........ {#emotions_dlg.whistle} 

5.       armegon
1872 posts
 03 Sep 2010 Fri 07:22 pm

If God supposed to be bounded by laws of Universe, it is possible but then it is not God since He is bounded so it is better to say like Hawking "There is no place for God"Wink. So you can just believe there is God like Antony Flew...

Quoting gokuyum

I trust science and i believe one day god will be proved by it.

Check this book:  http://www.amazon.com/There-God-Notorious-Atheist-Changed/dp/0061335304/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1283521923&sr=8-1

 

 



Edited (9/3/2010) by armegon

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6.       Daydreamer
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 03 Sep 2010 Fri 08:51 pm

I´m not 100% sure, we´d need our Bible expert for that, but I think it says somewhere that God cannot be comprehended by humans, it´s beyond our ability to reason. So, should this be true and should God really exist, I don´t think science could ever prove its existence

footnote:

I decided it would be fun to refer to God as "it" because after all there´s no proof it´s a man

7.       gokuyum
5046 posts
 03 Sep 2010 Fri 11:21 pm

God can be proved when some scientific researches need a creator to explain some scientific events. No human mind can understand god or find it in universe in a space or time. Because i believe there is nothing except god. We are parts of it but we are not it. This is hard for us to understand fully.



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Edited (9/3/2010) by gokuyum

8.       gokuyum
5046 posts
 03 Sep 2010 Fri 11:29 pm

 

Quoting libralady

 

 

 Until that day, we will grow old...... and many millennia later (if earth exists that long and we have not destroyed it) the same questions will still be asked.  So until then........ {#emotions_dlg.whistle}

 

 Don´t be so pessimist.Trust science.

9.       oeince
582 posts
 03 Sep 2010 Fri 11:52 pm

there is a saying in Turkey, the rabbit quarrelled with the mountain, the mountain isn´t aware. (tavşan dağa küsmüş dağın haberi yok. better translations are welcomed

If a creation could not find a place for his creator, it doesn´t change anything for the creator. Just the creation and his followers lose.

Whatever is that creations´ name and IQ level is, if he can´t find a place for God, he is ignorant.

10.       alameda
3499 posts
 04 Sep 2010 Sat 12:01 am

 

Quoting Daydreamer

I´m not 100% sure, we´d need our Bible expert for that, but I think it says somewhere that God cannot be comprehended by humans, it´s beyond our ability to reason. So, should this be true and should God really exist, I don´t think science could ever prove its existence

footnote:

I decided it would be fun to refer to God as "it" because after all there´s no proof it´s a man

 

A problem with this line of thought is it´s very limited concept of the Divine.

No matter where you face, you face the Divine, Divinity is in you, outide of you, in me and all things and is not limited by earthly rules...like rules regarding gravity or time.

I have to laugh at the narrow mindedness of much Science. Didn´t we learn life could not exist in.....say temperatures above....or below certain certain amounts.....but now we find....life does exist in those previously thought lifeless habitats.

I think the inclination towards belief by all humans is part of the collective wisdom we all share from memories of that other world.

Belief is like a sense, some are born blind, others become blind later in life...some are born with belief....some loose it..........Anyway, believe or don´t believe.

 

 

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