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My neighbour, the Turk...
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25 May 2006 Thu 10:21 am |
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Thank you Sophie  I will try to find it in Greek also. Exactly our ideas! We have nothing to share with people so similar to us, so close to us. I believe that the only way to change our minds is the two people to be closer. If a Greek has a contact with a Turkish, they will feel like brothers, believe me... In fact they are the only ones who are lauphing with the same jikes with us !
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25 May 2006 Thu 11:24 am |
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Thats why greek songs are popular in Turkey now 
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25 May 2006 Thu 12:26 pm |
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Quoting k_georgia: Thank you Sophie I will try to find it in Greek also. |
Here is the link
The original article was published in ΕΛΕΥΘΕΡΟΤΥΠΙΑ, on Friday, 24th March 2000.
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25 May 2006 Thu 12:32 pm |
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Seeing your reaction to this article, has given me hope.
Like the author said...'the sentiments cannot be marked on a map, only in our souls...'
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25 May 2006 Thu 03:39 pm |
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We need this hope Sophie mou Especially these days...
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25 May 2006 Thu 06:47 pm |
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Interesting topic.The aircraft incident over the disputed waters of the Aegean and the earlier burning of the Turkish flag in Athens must have soured relations between the two countries but I wonder what happens when Greece meet Türkiye on the football field at either club or national level. Do the opposing supporters get on well?
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25 May 2006 Thu 07:16 pm |
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Quoting Joey: Interesting topic.The aircraft incident over the disputed waters of the Aegean and the earlier burning of the Turkish flag in Athens must have soured relations between the two countries but I wonder what happens when Greece meet Türkiye on the football field at either club or national level. Do the opposing supporters get on well? |
You are right Joey. That's exactly why k-georgia in her post mentioned that we do need this hope now. Cause our relationships again are tensed. You know, it only takes a small spark and in no time the flames come to swallow us all. But i m optimistic. This whole thing will pass, as soon as those stupid reporters find something else to fanaticize the mass with...
As for football, well... even two teams of the same country fight in a match. How much more, when they are playing versus a foreign team from a foreign country. Hell!
But the last match that was held on greek ground, (I think it was about 2 years ago, but i cant comprehend the teams now) was a really peaceful match with respect from both sides.
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25 May 2006 Thu 07:39 pm |
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Quoting sophie: Quoting Joey: Interesting topic.The aircraft incident over the disputed waters of the Aegean and the earlier burning of the Turkish flag in Athens must have soured relations between the two countries but I wonder what happens when Greece meet Türkiye on the football field at either club or national level. Do the opposing supporters get on well? |
You are right Joey. That's exactly why k-georgia in her post mentioned that we do need this hope now. Cause our relationships again are tensed. You know, it only takes a small spark and in no time the flames come to swallow us all. But i m optimistic. This whole thing will pass, as soon as those stupid reporters find something else to fanaticize the mass with...
As for football, well... even two teams of the same country fight in a match. How much more, when they are playing versus a foreign team from a foreign country. Hell!
But the last match that was held on greek ground, (I think it was about 2 years ago, but i cant comprehend the teams now) was a really peaceful match with respect from both sides.
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Joey, I can propose another thing to ask us ...What happens when Greek people meet Turkish people and share raki together, talking about everything and saying jokes... The answer is only one (for me at least) : I have never been so close to people from other countries as I have been to Turkish. And I believe that most of Greeks who had a contact with Turkish have the same idea. Sometimes I am just thinking that if this tense get worst, its so normal to worry about my beloved friends in Turkey, than about a Greek that I have never met. Because , the point is not the borders and the nations but the humans and souls. There are not bud and good nations , there are just humans, as my favorite writer Aziz Nesin used to tell.
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26 May 2006 Fri 08:29 pm |
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Dont worry about football !
A Greek friend once told me that the Greek soccer team AEK was originally founded by Greek immigrants from Beşiktaş, that they wear black and white colors after BJK of İstanbul...and are sometimes called, by fans of rival Greek teams, "The Turks".
Is that correct Sophie mou?
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26 May 2006 Fri 09:15 pm |
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forgive me AlphaF but as far as i remember AEK wears black and yellow...
and we played national match in a near past as i remember so there were nothing as we hear and see on GS vs. FB matches or BESIKTAS vs FB which are both local turkish teams...
and lots of my friends going abroad with erasmus work and travel etc... says that greek ppl are just like us...
there is nothing weird about the relations between society... but you know sickness.. sick thoughts are everywhere... this is nearly with lots of nations...
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26 May 2006 Fri 09:59 pm |
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Bravo Sophie, that was a magnificent translation. Truly fabulous and all that hair and a flat belly off ya..... 
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