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Interesting news from Turkie
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16 Feb 2011 Wed 06:51 pm |
Antalya ranks fourth among most-visited global cities
Antalya is among the four most-visited cities in the world, trailing only Paris, London and Singapore, according to a senior official from the Culture and Tourism Ministry.
Source: here
Somehow I highly doubt it. Are they saying more people visit Antalya than New York? No way! And I don´t understand why in the article it says it´s fourth, and than it says it is aiming to become number 5... huh?
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17 Feb 2011 Thu 08:53 am |
Somehow I highly doubt it. Are they saying more people visit Antalya than New York? No way! And I don´t understand why in the article it says it´s fourth, and than it says it is aiming to become number 5... huh?
Yes you may be right.
But note the red text below:
Antalya is among the four most-visited cities in the world, trailing only Paris, London and Singapore, according to a senior official from the Culture and Tourism Ministry.
Demirel said Antalya was one of the seven greatest tourism destinations in the world. “Antalya is among the 10 most-visited cities in the world, in the fourth position following Paris, London and Singapore. Paris, London and Singapore counted their own citizens in visitor numbers, but Antalya did not.”
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21 Feb 2011 Mon 04:28 pm |
Murder a fact of life for women in Turkey
With nearly a thousand women murdered in Turkey in 2009 according to new data from the Justice Ministry, the country has witnessed a drastic increase since 66 women were murdered in 2002. ‘The reason behind violence against women is the imbalance of power in society,’ an activist says
Ayşe Paşalı (R), who was allegedly shot to death by her ex-husband, unsuccessfully sought official protection due to her husband´s alleged physical abuse and threats to kill her.
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The number of women murdered in a year in Turkey shot up 1,400 percent between 2002 and 2009, according to data recently revealed by the country’s justice minister.
Some 66 women were murdered in Turkey in 2002, but the numbers have been steadily increasing since then, Justice Minister Sadullah Ergin said in response to a parliamentary question from Peace and Democracy Party, or BDP, Van Deputy Fatma Kurtalan.
Eighty-three women were murdered in 2003, 164 in 2004, 317 in 2005, 663 in 2006, 1,011 in 2007, 806 in 2008 and 953 during the first seven months of 2009, the last date for which data was available, according to Ergin.
Source: here
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21 Feb 2011 Mon 08:03 pm |
Murder a fact of life for women in Turkey
With nearly a thousand women murdered in Turkey in 2009 according to new data from the Justice Ministry, the country has witnessed a drastic increase since 66 women were murdered in 2002. ‘The reason behind violence against women is the imbalance of power in society,’ an activist says
Ayşe Paşalı (R), who was allegedly shot to death by her ex-husband, unsuccessfully sought official protection due to her husband´s alleged physical abuse and threats to kill her.
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The number of women murdered in a year in Turkey shot up 1,400 percent between 2002 and 2009, according to data recently revealed by the country’s justice minister.
Some 66 women were murdered in Turkey in 2002, but the numbers have been steadily increasing since then, Justice Minister Sadullah Ergin said in response to a parliamentary question from Peace and Democracy Party, or BDP, Van Deputy Fatma Kurtalan.
Eighty-three women were murdered in 2003, 164 in 2004, 317 in 2005, 663 in 2006, 1,011 in 2007, 806 in 2008 and 953 during the first seven months of 2009, the last date for which data was available, according to Ergin.
Source: here
In a related story:
http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/n.php?n=reduced-sentences-given-to-men-in-mardin-rape-case-2011-02-21
Unfortunately, Turkey is not the only place where this happens. Violence against women is the silent terror that has been going on for eons all over the world. Its just sad. It gets noticed...now what will they do? For many women and their children, nothing will get done fast enough.
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22 Feb 2011 Tue 11:10 am |
Well actually I cannot see how they are related??
Anyway, right Turkie is not the only place. But that woman had applied for state protection claiming that her husband would kill her otherwise but she was turned down by the prosecutor. And 2 days later it happened. Is it also the same everywhere?
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22 Feb 2011 Tue 01:08 pm |
Is it also the same everywhere?
Yes si++, it is pretty much the same everywhere. Some women who are lucky enought to have a protection order against their abusive spouse still get killed anyways. The protection order is just a peice of paper, it does not stop bullets.
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22 Feb 2011 Tue 01:54 pm |
Yes si++, it is pretty much the same everywhere. Some women who are lucky enought to have a protection order against their abusive spouse still get killed anyways. The protection order is just a peice of paper, it does not stop bullets.
I believe, in some other places they can get effective protection measures (like relocation to an unknown place, and/or getting a new identity and even a new face after a plastic surgery operation).
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22 Feb 2011 Tue 02:19 pm |
I believe, in some other places they can get effective protection measures (like relocation to an unknown place, and/or getting a new identity and even a new face after a plastic surgery operation).
Try telling that to the families of those women who were killed and see what they will tell you. Plastic surgery is expensive and relocation programs and protection programs of that sort is for extreme measures like testefing against organised crimes bosses and such situations.
Have you ever tried to identify a female friend at the morge? Where her face was so battered and disfigured from the beating to death that she received, that the only way you could idenfenty her was by a tattoo she had on her lower back or that the only way to identify her was with her dental records or her fingerprints.
I had friends that were beaten within an in of thiers lives and their boyfriends had found out where they lived and let me tell you that Canada is rather a large country where you can hide yourself in.
When a man decides that he is going to kill his wife/girlfriend the planet is not big enought for her to dissapear on.
And remember that most of the violance done against women, those women have almost no recourse because the man made sure to isolate her from her family and friends. If the woman decides to leave she puts her family and friends at risk of being assaulted by her husband/boyfriend.
So no, it is not better in some other places. In 99% of the time when help is available for the woman it is already too late.
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22 Feb 2011 Tue 02:45 pm |
Try telling that to the families of those women who were killed and see what they will tell you. Plastic surgery is expensive and relocation programs and protection programs of that sort is for extreme measures like testefing against organised crimes bosses and such situations.
Have you ever tried to identify a female friend at the morge? Where her face was so battered and disfigured from the beating to death that she received, that the only way you could idenfenty her was by a tattoo she had on her lower back or that the only way to identify her was with her dental records or her fingerprints.
I had friends that were beaten within an in of thiers lives and their boyfriends had found out where they lived and let me tell you that Canada is rather a large country where you can hide yourself in.
When a man decides that he is going to kill his wife/girlfriend the planet is not big enought for her to dissapear on.
And remember that most of the violance done against women, those women have almost no recourse because the man made sure to isolate her from her family and friends. If the woman decides to leave she puts her family and friends at risk of being assaulted by her husband/boyfriend.
So no, it is not better in some other places. In 99% of the time when help is available for the woman it is already too late.
I myself have no idea for the other places. I watched her (Ayşe Paşalı´s) lawyer on TV and she had said that some other states (I believe she meant the European states) protect their women in similar cases. I assumed she had done her research on this matter.
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22 Feb 2011 Tue 03:54 pm |
... her (Ayşe Paşalı´s) lawyer on TV and she had said that some other states (I believe she meant the European states) protect their women in similar cases. I assumed she had done her research on this matter.
Any country, even with all the laws in place to protect the women from abusive men, will always have problems with men abusing women. wether it be in Europe, Asia or the Americas. Some men take pleasure in beating their wives/girlfriends. This has nothing to do with the society or the culture or the people, this is about male dominating "his" female, which he considers as his "posession".
Unfortunatly lawyers think that since laws exists this will stop the violance but it is not true, laws are just words written on paper and cannot stop a man who has decided to beat or kill his wife/girlfriend.
It is easy to say "if this would have happened in such a country, the laws would have..."
As an example, here in Canada we do not have the death penatly. It has been revoked since 1967 when the last person hung was an innocent man. In certain states of USA they have the death penalty. It was easy for me to say "if we would have been in the USA this man who killed my best friend would be put to death, he would get what he deserves" but I do not live in the USA and I have to accept the fact that the killer will spend the rest of his life in jail, being fed and kept by my tax money. So I am paying taxes to the government to keep a killer alive in our prison system.
The only way to stop this is for the women to raise their voices and say enought is enought and have the authoreties recognise that this is an issue and a serious one at that and that the women do not ask to be beaten, that it is not their fault. It will not happen overnight and it will not be easy but it can be done.
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22 Feb 2011 Tue 06:32 pm |
Well actually I cannot see how they are related??
Anyway, right Turkie is not the only place. But that woman had applied for state protection claiming that her husband would kill her otherwise but she was turned down by the prosecutor. And 2 days later it happened. Is it also the same everywhere?
It is related because they both relate to violence against women....I don´t think rape is that different from murder. One is the murder of your body and the other is a murder of your soul.
Anyway to answer your question, yes. It happens in the US. A very good friend of mine went thru a nightmarish ordeal with a jealous boyfriend. She was unable to "prove" he was stalking her and she could not get protection from the police on the basis of his harrassment. He eventually was arrested when he broke into her parents home and tried to stab her in the middle of the night.
My point is that nothing ever happens until bad things happen. Then, MAYBE, things begin to change but they change at a snail pace. The problem is NOT what to do with the criminal it is how to stop men from growing into criminals. What needs to happen is a fundamental way that women are viewed in patriarchial societies. Boys need to be raised differently so that they do not grow up into the types of monsters that think its OK to abuse women because they are property or inferior.
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