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Turkish Defence in London
1.       si++
3785 posts
 10 Aug 2011 Wed 12:01 pm

Turkish shopkeepers in an east London neighborhood are refusing to close their shops amid huge riots as they attempt to guard their property.

Turkish business owners between Hackney’s Stoke Newington High Street and Kingsland Road in London have been fighting to defend their properties from days of rioting across the United Kingdom.

"It was between about 9 or 10 at night," said Yılmaz Karagöz, sitting in his coffee shop next to a jeweller´s shop that has been shuttered since Sunday when the rioting began and a pharmacy that closed a day after.

"There were a lot of them. We came out of our shops but the police asked us to do nothing. But the police did not do anything, so, as more came, we chased them off ourselves,” Karagöz said.

The staff from a local kebab restaurant ran at the attackers with döner knives in their hands. "I don´t think they will be coming back," Karagöz said.

According to British daily The Guardian, on Green Street in East Ham a similar-sized group of rioters was chased away by several hundred Asian residents. And in Bethnal Green local shopkeepers came out to defend their property.

Tuesday night there were further reports of communities taking steps to defend themselves. Dozens of men were guarding the main Sikh temple in Southall, west London.

Around 200 people were walking around the center of Eltham, southeast London, following rumors that the area was going to be the latest place to be hit by disturbances. The group, predominantly men, had been congregating in pubs since rumors began to circulate in mid-afternoon. "This is a white working-class area and we are here to protect our community," said one man.


Source: here

2.       si++
3785 posts
 10 Aug 2011 Wed 12:23 pm


LONDON, Aug. 9 (Xinhua) -- Londoners woke on Tuesday morning to find their city changed in a way they could not have imagined 24 hours before, after violence, looting, muggings, and arson swept across the metropolis for the third night.

Monday night´s rioting was by far the most widespread and violent since Saturday, as violence spread to other English cities including Birmingham, Liverpool, and Bristol.

It is the most serious and widespread outbreak of public disorder on British mainland in living memory.

British Prime Minister David Cameron cut short his holiday in Italy to return via a British military flight at 3 a.m. Tuesday, to take charge of the government´s response.


In parts of London, ethnic communities joined forces to drive the looters and muggers off the streets. In the large Turkish community in north London´s Dalston, young Turks chased off would-be looters, and not far away in east London´s Whitechapel district, young Muslim men stood guard over a mosque.

A similar incident was reported in the Old Kent Road area of London, where young Muslims were out on the street to deter thieves and robbers.


Source: here

3.       si++
3785 posts
 10 Aug 2011 Wed 12:31 pm

Vigilantes were forced onto the streets last night to protect their homes and businesses after police failed to materialise at many of the scenes of looting and violence which swept across London.

As officers lost control of the streets locals were forced to take the law into their own hands, arming themselves with sticks and chasing looters away from their properties.

In Dalston and Hackney, north-east London, Turkish shopkeepers and their families fought back against looting youths, before spending the night standing shoulder-to-shoulder in an attempt to deter further attacks.

One man said: ´This is Turkish Kurdish area. They come to our shops and we fight them with sticks.´

Despite increasing calls for the police to get tough with the rioters, Home Secretary Theresa May today sparked anger as she appeared to dismiss the notions that water cannons and even the Army could be used to ensure violent scenes are not repeated tonight.

As police were slammed for appearing to let looters run riot under their noses, Mrs May instead advocated a more softly-softly approach.

She said: ´The way we police in Britain is not through use of water cannon. The way we police in Britain is through consent of communities.´

On Shacklewell Lane, the Turkish community was hailed across Twitter as being the force which saved the area from wanton destruction.

After a single-deck bus was burned out, stick-wielding shopkeepers chased away a gang of youngsters before standing defiant in the face of further violence.

One, who would not give his name, said: ´We beat up four of them quite badly and they ran off.´ Another said: ´This is not justice, coming here and trying to attack us.´ 

Dalston tweet

In testament to the men´s bravery, several businesses on the street remained open as usual, unlike other areas where shopkeepers had heeded police advice to shut their doors early.

Guardian reporter Paul Lewis described the scenes on Kingsland Road, Hackney, as Turkish men clashed with youths, tweeting: ´Kingsland Road chaotic as Turkish men attack other, predominantly black, youths with sticks, metal barricades and bricks.´

Dalston tweet

In a further tweet Mr Lewis quoted a man carrying a stick as saying: ´This is Turkish Kurdish area. They come to our shops and we fight them with sticks.´


Source: here

Edited (8/10/2011) by si++
Edited (8/10/2011) by si++

4.       vineyards
1954 posts
 10 Aug 2011 Wed 02:32 pm

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5.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 10 Aug 2011 Wed 04:21 pm

Vinyards, are you having a silent protest? 

6.       vineyards
1954 posts
 10 Aug 2011 Wed 08:12 pm

No. I guess it is a technical problem. It happens when I post from Google Chrome I guess.


Summarily, I raved about what Ms. May might have meant when she said community consent. Maybe she means, these matters must be settled according to the norms of different communities, if it is a Turkish or Kurdish community they may bang on your heads with their bats; elsewhere you are free to loot. Please let us keep our heads up when we are basking in the pride of our advanced civil and cultural norms. You surely don´t expect me to be bothered with the matters of the commons just because I am a home secretary.

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