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Question participle (-mi?) after a word.
1.       Mavili
236 posts
 11 Feb 2012 Sat 11:58 pm

Rafadan yumurta mı güzeldir, hazırlop yumurta mı?

I understand that -mi, as a participle, makes the word before it a question. And I can probably figure out the context if its after a time span word:

Gelecek hafta mı?

And if its before an adjective:

Arabayı kırımızı mı?

Or if before a question word: (do you even need tp include it for these?)

Kim mi?

However, I can´t see how the participle makes the preceding noun (soft-boiled egg) into a question since an adjective follows (güzeldir)

Then for the other half, -mi? is last. So I don´t know how to read that except as "is he a hard-boiled egg?"

Mind you, this is not my sentence. Its an example from FSI Turkish website. But to answer it for practice, I want to understand the structure of this sentence. thanks always

2.       Henry
2604 posts
 12 Feb 2012 Sun 03:14 am

While you wait for an expert, here are my thoughts Smile

Rafadan yumurta mı güzeldir, hazırlop yumurta mı?

Is it the soft-boiled egg or the hard-boiled egg that is nice?

As a learner I think this question could also be written this way 

 Rafadan yumurta mı yoksa hazırlop yurmurta mı güzeldir?

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3.       si++
3785 posts
 12 Feb 2012 Sun 10:52 am

 

Quoting Mavili

Rafadan yumurta mı güzeldir, hazırlop yumurta mı?

I understand that -mi, as a participle, makes the word before it a question. And I can probably figure out the context if its after a time span word:

Gelecek hafta mı?

And if its before an adjective:

Arabayı kırımızı mı?

Or if before a question word: (do you even need tp include it for these?)

Kim mi?

However, I can´t see how the participle makes the preceding noun (soft-boiled egg) into a question since an adjective follows (güzeldir)

 

Then for the other half, -mi? is last. So I don´t know how to read that except as "is he a hard-boiled egg?"

 

Mind you, this is not my sentence. Its an example from FSI Turkish website. But to answer it for practice, I want to understand the structure of this sentence. thanks always

 

First, a small correction:

Particle not participle.

 

Take a simple sentence for example:

Özne Nesne Eylem = Subj Verb Obj

Özne mi Nesne Eylem = Is it Subj that/who Verb Obj

Özne Nesne mi Eylem = Is it Obj that/whom Subj Verb

Özne Nesne Eylem mi = Axulalry Subj Verb Obj (Typical question format in English)

 

Özne (Subj) = Ali

Nesne (Obj)  = Elif´i

Eylem (Verb) = seviyor

 

Ali Elif´i seviyor = Ali loves Elif

 

Ali mi Elif´i seviyor? = Is it Ali who loves Elif?

Ali Elif´i mi seviyor? = Is it Elif whom Ali loves?

Ali Elif´i seviyor mu? = Does Ali loves Elif?

 

"Kim mi?" is possible. It usually happens when somebody asks you "kim? = who?" and you ask back "who?"? ((why) Do you ask "who?"?).

 

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4.       Mavili
236 posts
 12 Feb 2012 Sun 05:00 pm

Thank you Henry and Si+ I am begining to understand now. 

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