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Smoking kills
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1.       si++
3785 posts
 06 Mar 2012 Tue 08:53 am

I wouldn´t call those who do being wise (or call them unlogical, insane whatever) when they still do it while seeing this warning everywhere.

 

Many later admit that they were indeed dumb doing it.

2.       MarioninTurkey
6124 posts
 06 Mar 2012 Tue 04:18 pm

Observation from an expat.

 

Coming from the UK where the weather is a lot colder, I used to laugh at how Turks thought if they went out in the cold they would get ill.

 

Now I definitely laugh at those who sit OUTSIDE in the cafes so that they can smoke. Smoking is proved medically to make you ill. The very people who are afraid to stand outside in the cold because they may get flu are very happy to go outside to smoke ... running even bigger risks!

3.       lemon
1374 posts
 06 Mar 2012 Tue 04:30 pm

I would like to reply to Scalpel here. It has nothing to do with smoking. I bet acute will withdraw his "liked my comment" after reading this. He should. He didnt know my thoughts. I do not judge people by what they smoke, eat or drink.

Scalpel, darlink, the only reason I dislike those "wise" men is that some of them are connected to Masons. Oscar Wilde was really wild, he was a satan worshipper.

Freud had a distructive influence on the society bringing chaos into it. He thought he was wise he could learn and read the people´s minds, thus becoming a god in his own eyes.

All these men are heading to hell. For they fooled many and misled. 

 

4.       scalpel
1472 posts
 06 Mar 2012 Tue 08:21 pm

Lemon, darling, as the thread locked, acute has no chance of withdrawing her/his comment.. but I think s/he wouldn´t do that as s/he must still be thinking the same way as you do in disliking those people.. It was nice to see how "fraternity of smoke" could make old enemies become good friends  

Don´t you like this one also? (please, say you like!){#emotions_dlg.pray}

Lucky Luke

 

I like this lonesome cowboy, Lucky Luke (Red Kit)

His creator let him quit smoking in 1983. Here is the reason: "The reason why I took away Luke´s cigarette, is the fact that children usually have a tendency to imitate the heroes whose adventures they read."

This sounds good, but why didn´t he take away his pistol as well?

Aren´t fire arms more deadly than tobacco? 

Another question:

Aren´t religions more deadly than tobacco?

 

 

5.       lemon
1374 posts
 06 Mar 2012 Tue 09:31 pm

I cant believe my own eyes you scalpel wrote such things to  me.  {#emotions_dlg.eeek}

acute whatever gender, can still change his like/dislike option.

I have friends who smoke, and I dont hate them. Apologize me now. {#emotions_dlg.get_you}

6.       lemon
1374 posts
 06 Mar 2012 Tue 09:36 pm

and for goodness sake dont serve me with cowboyish stuff  or  whatever supermen or hero things. {#emotions_dlg.rant}

 

I am enjoying reading 1 and 2 Samuel about David. About how he was merciful to Saul, how he respected his king although had good reasons to kill him. amazing stories. recommend!

7.       scalpel
1472 posts
 06 Mar 2012 Tue 10:45 pm

 

Quoting lemon

 

I am enjoying reading 1 and 2 Samuel about David. About how he was merciful to Saul, how he respected his king although had good reasons to kill him. amazing stories. recommend!

 

I just found this:

Have you thought of the elders of Israel after Moses, and how they said to their apostle: "Set up a king for us, then we shall fight in the way of God?" He replied: "This too is possible that when commanded to fight you may not fight at all." They said: "How is it we should not fight in the way of God when we have been driven from our homes and deprived of our Sons?" But when they were ordered to fight they turned away, except for a few; yet God knows the sinners.
—Qur´an, sura 2 (Al-Baqara), ayah 246
And when their prophet said to them: "God has raised Saul king over you," they said: "How can he be king over us when we have greater right to kingship than he, for he does not even possess abundant wealth?" "God has chosen him in preference to you," said the prophet "and gifted him abundantly in wisdom and stature; and God gives authority to whomsoever He will: God is infinite and all-wise."
Their prophet said to them: "The sign of his kingship will be that you will come to have a chest (tabu´t) full of peace and tranquility (Sakina) from your Lord and remainder of the legacy of the children of Moses and the children of Aaron, carried over by the angels. In this certainly shall be a sign for you if you really believe."
—Qur´an, sura 2 (Al-Baqara), ayah 247–248

8.       vineyards
1954 posts
 07 Mar 2012 Wed 01:49 am

Things like this remind me of Leonard Cohen and his song :

Maybe there’s a God above
But all I’ve ever learned from love
Was how to shoot at someone who outdrew you
It’s not a cry you can hear at night
It’s not somebody who has seen the light
It’s a cold and it’s a broken Hallelujah
....
There´s a blaze of light in every word
It doesn´t matter which you heard
The holy or the broken Hallelujah

9.       si++
3785 posts
 07 Mar 2012 Wed 09:27 am

 

Whoever your list may include! That doesn´t change the fact that they all do a dumb act!

 

Quoting scalpel

Lemon, darling, as the thread locked, acute has no chance of withdrawing her/his comment..

 

No, she has! below, I quote from that locked thread!

 

Here is a short list of foolish people Wink

Atatürk

Einstein

Wilde

Oscar Wilde

Sartre

Jean-paul Sartre 

Twain

Mark Twain

Camus

Albert Camus

Grass

Günter Grass

Brecht

Bertolt Brecht

Freud

Sigmund Freud

Kennedy

John F. Kennedy

Pablo Picasso

Pablo Picasso

 

 

10.       Abla
3642 posts
 07 Mar 2012 Wed 04:42 pm

Quote:scalpel

Another question:

Aren´t religions more deadly than tobacco?

 

 

Who can count the victims of religions, those who still live and those who have lost their lives?

But there is also the other side of it. Religions bring good things to people’s lives as well. They encourage to high moral, honesty, brotherhood, sobriety and mercy against the weak. These are things that we can’t read about in the news but they exist.

Egypt is a very religious country. I mean people are truly religious. Of course in an environment like this hippocracy blossoms also but my experience is most people are sincere in their beliefs. As a European it is a new experience for me.

When the results of Egyptian elections were reported in Finnish news the victory of Muslim Brotherhood and the salafists was explained mainly as the result of poverty and illiteracy. In my opinion this is only part of the truth and maybe not even the most important part of it.

I will tell you an example. Public schools are a problem in Egypt. Teachers are badly paid, they don’t take care of their duties as they should. They may leave the classroom and children on their own if it is hot and the air conditioning doesn’t work. Classes are huge. Physical punishment is forbidden but usual. It is an endless list of problems. Ok, many of them could be solved with better money and resources but people also have a lot to improve in their attitudes. Anyone who can afford it puts his children to a private school.

My 5-year old son goes to a private religious madrasa. It was close to home and there was a place for him. The madrasa is in an ordinary apartment. There are more than a hundred pupils in four rooms, no playground or yard, just a tiny balcony. But the people who work there are something else. They are all veiled women wearing black. They show affection against children, they don’t hit them or even threaten them. One lady is taking care of thirty 5-year-olds in one room. They don’t play, they study: recite the Qur’an, learn Arabic, English and maths sitting on their small chairs shoulder to shoulder. And they enjoy it. They admire the teacher and tell about her at home. They learn: my child didn’t know even Arabic letters when he came and now he can read. He can count ultil thirty and compare numbers. He recites big parts of Qur’an by heart. It is a kindergarten which makes amazing results for 80 Egyptian pounds (10 euros) a month per a child.

The teachers, these believing women, do their work in conditions which no kindergartner would accept in my country. They do it with their heart, hoping for a reward from Allah. My point is, if the candidates of Muslim Brotherhood and salafists were half this dedicated, disciplined and philanthropic one doesn’t have to be illiterate to vote for them. In Egyptian society believers often represent such personal qualities which every common man and woman would like to bring into his own life. This is the good fruit of religion. 



Edited (3/7/2012) by Abla
Edited (3/7/2012) by Abla

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